Hi,Can anybody please help me find an old North Atlantic Track, i've searched around and can only find the current ones. If anyone can provide me with the actual track or point me in the right direction I would be very grateful.The track i'm looking for is a Westbound Track with an entry point at RATSU and it was for the 26th November 2003.Many thanks in anticipation.Warmest regards,Steve.

Steve,try www.glideslope.deThey carry the NAT Tracks daily on their site. Maybe they can look back and find the data you need.hope this helps.

ATC DELAYS AND ADVISORIESATCSCC ADVZY 021 DCC 11/25/03 DCC RETRANSMISSION OF ZBW NAT TRACKSZBW NORTH ATLANTIC ADVISORYFOR 11/25/03 2000Z - 11/26/03 0400ZAIRCRAFT DEPARTING JFK PLEASE FILE THE FOLLOWING ROUTES TO MINIMIZEDEPARTURE DELAYS DESTINED TO EUROPE:TRACK V/ JFK.GREKI3.MARTN..TAFFY.N165E.VALIE..SCROD.TRAKVTRACK W/ JFK.GREKI3.MARTN..TOPPS.N149B.STEAM..OYSTR.TRAKWTRACK X/ JFK.MERIT3.PUT..EBONY.N135B.REDBY..CARPE.TRAKXTRACK Y/ JFK.BETTE3.ACK..ALLEX.N121B.YAY.TRAKYTRACK Z/ JFK.BETTE3.ACK..TUSKY.N105B.DOTTY.TRAKZ------------------------------------------------------------------AIRCRAFT DEPARTING EWR PLEASE FILE THE FOLLOWING TO MINIMIZEDEPARTURE DELAYS GOING TO EUROPE:TRACK V/ EWR..GREKI..JUDDS..MARTN..TAFFY.N165E.VALIE..SCROD.TRAKVTRACK W/ EWR..GREKI..JUDDS..MARTN..TOPPS.N149B.STEAM..OYSTR.TRAKWTRACK X/ EWR..MERIT..HFD..PUT..EBONY.N135B.REDBY..CARPE.TRAKXTRACK Y/ EWR..MERIT..HFD..PUT..WITCH..ALLEX.N121B.YAY.TRAKYTRACK Z/ EWR..MERIT..HFD..PUT..BOS..TUSKY.N105B.DOTTY.TRAKZ--------------------------------------------------------------------AIRCRAFT REQUESTING ROUTES OVER TAFFY/TOPPS/EBONY/ PLEASE FILE:AT OR WEST OF A LINE: JFK..PUT..DIRECTAIRCRAFT REQUESTING ROUTES OVER ALLEX/TUSKY PLEASE FILE:VIA J174.RIFLE..ACK..DIRECTAIRCRAFT DEPARTING DC METRO AREA AIRPORTS FLIGHT PLANNED OVERALLEX/TUSKY PLEASE FILE:VIA PALEO.V44.SIE.J121.SHLEP..ACK..DIRECT ORVIA SWANN.V268.BROSS.J42.RBV..ACK..DIRECT-------------------------------------------------------------------ANY QUESTIONS CALL ZBW TMU AT 603-879-6666, ZNY TMU AT 631-468-1078,OR ZDC TMU AT 703-771-3504.251500-26050003/11/25 14:59 FSB.//NAT-1/2 TRACKS FLS 320/400 INCLUSIVENOV 26/0100Z TO NOV 26/0800ZPART ONE OF TWO PARTS-V VALIE SCROD 56/50 57/40 57/30 56/20 MASIT DEVOLEAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400WEST LVLS NILEUR RTS WEST NILNAR N165E N171A-W STEAM OYSTR 55/50 56/40 56/30 55/20 DOGAL BURAKEAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400WEST LVLS NILEUR RTS WEST NILNAR N149B N155A-X REDBY CARPE 54/50 55/40 55/30 54/20 MALOT DOLIPEAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400WEST LVLS NILEUR RTS WEST NILNAR N135B N141B-Y YAY 53/50 54/40 54/30 53/20 LIMRI GIPEREAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400WEST LVLS NILEUR RTS WEST NILNAR N121B N129B-END OF PART ONE OF TWO PARTSNAT-2/2 TRACKS FLS 320/400 INCLUSIVENOV 26/0100Z TO NOV 26/0800ZPART TWO OF TWO PARTS-Z DOTTY 52/50 53/40 53/30 52/20 DINIM KENUKEAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400WEST LVLS NILEUR RTS WEST NILNAR N105B N113B-REMARKS:1.TRACK MESSAGE IDENTIFICATION 330.2.CLEARANCE DELIVERY FREQUENCY ASSIGNMENTS FOR AIRCRAFT OPERATINGFROM MOATT TO BOBTU INCLUSIVE:MOATT TO SCROD 128.7OYSTR TO CARPE 135.45YAY TO CYMON 135.05YQX TO YYT 128.45COLOR TO BOBTU 119.423.80 PERCENT OF GROSS NAVIGATIONAL ERRORS RESULT FROM POOR COCKPITPROCEDURES. ALWAYS CARRY OUT PROPER WAYPOINT CHECKS.4.NAT EASTBOUND FLIGHT PLANNING RESTRICTIONS IN FORCE.REFER TO EGGX G0318/03.5.REFER TO NOTAM CZQX A8854/03-NAT TRACK MESSAGE AMENDMENTPROCEDURE CHANGE.END OF PART TWO OF TWO PARTSNAT-1/3 TRACKS FLS 310/390 INCLUSIVENOV 26/1130Z TO NOV 26/1900ZPART ONE OF THREE PARTS-A ATSIX 62/20 64/30 65/40 65/50 64/60 KAGLY TEFFOEAST LVLS NILWEST LVLS 310 320 330 350 360 370 380 390EUR RTS WEST AKIVONAR N544C-B BALIX 61/20 63/30 64/40 64/50 63/60 IKMAN FEDDYEAST LVLS NILWEST LVLS 310 320 330 350 360 370 380 390EUR RTS WEST NINEXNAR N532E N528A-C NIBOG 55/20 53/30 51/40 50/50 YQXEAST LVLS NILWEST LVLS 310 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390EUR RTS WEST NURSINAR N126B N130C-D DOGAL 54/20 52/30 50/40 49/50 VIXUNEAST LVLS NILWEST LVLS 310 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390EUR RTS WEST BABANNAR N114C N116A-E MALOT 53/20 51/30 49/40 48/50 YYTEAST LVLS NILWEST LVLS 310 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390EUR RTS WEST BURAKNAR N98A N102B-END OF PART ONE OF THREE PARTSNAT-2/3 TRACKS FLS 310/390 INCLUSIVENOV 26/1130Z TO NOV 26/1900ZPART TWO OF THREE PARTS-F LIMRI 52/20 50/30 48/40 47/50 COLOREAST LVLS NILWEST LVLS 310 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390EUR RTS WEST DOLIPNAR N82B N88A-G DINIM 51/20 49/30 47/40 46/50 BANCSEAST LVLS NILWEST LVLS 310 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390EUR RTS WEST GIPERNAR N72B N78A-H 45/40 44/50 BOBTU JAROMEAST LVLS NILWEST LVLS 320 340 360EUR RTS WEST NILNAR N48E N54E-J 44/40 43/50 JEBBY CARACEAST LVLS NILWEST LVLS 320 340 360EUR RTS WEST NILNAR N36E N44B-END OF PART TWO OF THREE PARTSNAT-3/3 TRACKS FLS 310/390 INCLUSIVENOV 26/1130Z TO NOV 26/1900ZPART THREE OF THREE PARTS-K 43/40 40/50 36/60 BALOOEAST LVLS NILWEST LVLS 320 340 360EUR RTS WEST NILNAR NIL-REMARKS.1. TRACK MESSAGE IDENTIFICATION NUMBER IS 330 AND OPERATORS AREREMINDED TO INCLUDE THE TMI NUMBER AS PART OF THE OCEANIC CLEARANCEREAD BACK.2. MNPS AIRSPACE EXTENDS FROM FL285 TO FL420. OPERATORS ARE REMINDEDTHAT SPECIFIC MNPS APPROVAL IS REQUIRED TO FLY IN THIS AIRSPACE.IN ADDITION, RVSM APPROVAL IS REQUIRED TO FLY BETWEEN FL290 AND FL410INCLUSIVE.3. EIGHTY PERCENT OF GROSS NAVIGATION ERRORS RESULT FROM POOR COCKPITPROCEDURES. ALWAYS CARRY OUT PROPER WAY POINT CHECKS.4. OPERATORS ATTENTION IS DRAWN TO UK NOTAM EGGX G0249/03.5. OPERATORS ATTENTION IS DRAWN TO UK NOTAM EGGX G0346/03 REFERENCEMILITARY ACTIVITY AFFECTING ERAKA AND GOMUP SFC TO 28,000FT (FL320).-END OF PART THREE OF THREE PARTS

Thanks very much for the help.Regards,Steve.

Thanks for the listing, I must admit though i'm now more confused than ever.It seems there are no tracks listed there with an entry point from RATSU for the 26th November.I know that I have the correct entry point becuase I was actually listening to the "From the Cockpit" chanel of the United Airlines 955 flight from LHR - SFO that I was on and heard the clearance given to that location, maybe they didn't fly a proper North Atlantic Track that day, we went further into Greenland than I have ever done before on that route.I guess I will just have to remain stumped trying to work the route out for that flight.Regards,Steve.

Hi Steve,I think even more than 50% of the flights from London to San Francisco are not flown via a North Atlantic Track; the NAT's are usually too far south for that route. So if you're sure the entry point was RATSU, the route was filed via a so-called random route. If that's the case, it'll be quite difficult to tell which route that was, unless somebody has access to a flightplan archive.Regards,http://home.planet.nl/~duijn181/cu2/koen.jpg

Koen,I'm positive the entry point was RATSU, but thank you very much for explaining about the so called "random route" that makes perfect sense now and explains why I was getting confused.Warmest regards,Steve.