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You are really missing something if you have gotthe East & Sth East England VFR Scenery. It's a significantstep forward!Easy ordering. Emails answered.Simple install. Works well.Fast delivery to Australia.Reasonable price.If you go without your usual 29 moccas for a week, your eighteggs & black puddings for breakfast, your 4 beef burgersfor lunch, you can easily afford it!Peter Sydney Australia P4 1.7 Geoforce2 64mg 512 Rambus Dram XP Home PSS 747

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Yep, I have to agree with you. I can see my house! Which is pretty much something everyone wants to do when they first go flying - and now we can simulate it.

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I keep telling myself (and saying on the forum) that it's just too much flippin' money! It's in several parts at about

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I suspect that most of the cost comes from GetMapping who provided the photos. Imagine the cost of photographing every square mile of an entire country! They aren't going to sell anything cheaply after that kind of investment of time and money.

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What is the performance penalty like? Surely there must be massive texture loading / unloading, as hardly any of the individual texture tiles (if any) could be used more than once. I'm thinking you would need lots of very fast RAM to get an enjoyable experience out of this.

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It looks great, and as I heard works well too. It doesn't use AutoGen so it must have a good performance.Still, i really do belive this one is slightly overpirced.Just like Ariane 737. Except both companies are totally different.

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One thing I don't quite understand. What happens to an existing (default) FS2002 aerodrome. As I understand it, the real airports (photographed) appear on the scenery, don't they? So don't the default FS2002 overlay them, or are the real airports somehow edited out of the final product (except where they never existed in FS2002 to start with)?

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PerformanceI haven't seen a hit in performance in terms of FPS. The only slowdown you see is when you first start a flight or choose 'go to airport...' it does take a bit longer to load the textures. Once in flight though - no real difference. Perhaps the 'cost' of many unique textures is cancelled out by having no autogen scenery.AirportsThe default airports are overlayed. For the most part it looks pretty good, but there are one or two where MS haven't quite got their taxiways spot on - where you get some unusual taxiways anyway. I think that most add-on airports will look much better than the default airports in this context.The big bonus is that all the missing and disused airports are represented. If you know where to look you can find some of those long disused WWII bases.I'd say that if you live in Britain, fly in Britain, or just want to see the future of Flight Simming one of these scenery areas is an essential purchase. Of course, if you get one it won't be enough! It fulfils one of the basic joys of flying: "Look! I can see my house from here!"Here's my system spec (I get around 20-25 FPS without stuttering, most sliders towards the high end of the scale):Athlon 1GHzKT7A 384MGeForce2 Ti7200 rpm Barracuda HDEr, can't think of anything else significant...

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Thanks Steve. I think I might get it more out of curiosity - to see the future, as you put it. I too believe it is the future of flight simming. I've actually asked the developers if they are doing any other countries, but I'm not even sure the data exists.

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I find very strange - you like to spend all those money for and addon.You can simply go to the getmapping site - download photos - get the scenery sdk - and compile areas you like - it took me less of 1 hours to do the whole of the isle of wight! Ray

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i think you could say that for any add on. e.g. why by the pss airbus when you could just program it yourself? time. :)

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There is no programming whatsoever in this scenery.Is just a matter to stick photo toghether - via coordinates - and compile with the sdk - if you do not have practice - you can learn it in a matter of 1 week -!

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I'm one of those spoiled rotten kids that prefer to pay others to work for me (grin)! By the time I've been online long enough to download all the stuff I need for making such scenery myself, I will have spent more on the telephone bill than those CD's would cost me. Jaap Verduijn.

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fair enough, but one hour to make the isle of wight is a fair old while. if you've got the patience and time, then go for it - i'd rather be flying!

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>You can simply go to the getmapping site - download photos - >get the scenery sdk - and compile areas you like - it took >me less of 1 hours to do the whole of the isle of wight! Ray: what and how did you download from the getmapping site?I can see how to save a bitmap file of an example 'low resolution'sample for a given postcode. Is that sufficient or is there somewhere else on the site which is a better source of data?Any chance of putting your Isle of Wight on the AVSIM library?Cheers, John.4m NW of EGHI (Southampton UK)FS2002 Standard on Intel PIII 733 MHz, 256MB with 32M GeForce2MX graphics and Windows ME.

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RaySomeone else asked "are you going to upload this Isle of Wight scenery to Avsim?" Lets all see the result of your 1 hour. I'm very interested.

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It's quite funny how photographic scenery is now being called "The future of flight simulator". It has been in Fly! and Flight Unlimited for years. In fact, when FS2002 was new, everyone said that the Autogen and new high res generic textures were a "step up" from photgraphic scenery...not flaming anyone, just an ovservation.

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So Fly! had photographic scenery covering large areas? I remember FU 's scenery being marvellous & FS2K2 is only now catching up with many features of that sim. But, FU only covered a small area of the world - I think seeing high quality non-generic scenery covering the entire planet is a way off, but it is the future.

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FS2002 lags behind many previous releases of sim program, FU (oops !) Fly, sure they had photorealistic textures, Falcon 5 has AI models up to 20+ F16's all lined up without a huge hit on frame rate and 3DS models as well. Longbow..still the premier helicopter sim,shoot em up, all how old now?MS 2002 is not the be all and end all, in fact it was old before it was released. VFR, sure it's good and a credit to it's designer, it's just too early and far to expensive in the grand scheme of things. Dont be suprised to see Microsoft doing the same in the next but one release.Got my fireproofs on...!George

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Well, I don't completely disagree with you. I came to FS2000 from FU3 (Looking Glass, RIP - sadly missed) and frankly I was disappointed. It was only the stunning array of addons that made it worthwhile. FS2k2 has caught up pretty well - it is a good all-rounder. What do we want from a simulator? I suppose ultimately we want a complete and convincing representation of the real world. I look forward to a sim where the models are accurate to last detail, the scenery is virtually indistinguishable from the real world, the weather model is more advanced than the current met office simulations, birds are a hazard, and your computer is somehow hard-wired to your brain to create the sensations of flight you feel in real life. Hey, some of it may well happen in our lifetime!

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Microsoft know the success of Flightsim range is dependant on the availability of the add ons. A bit of a cheek realy, :-fume but thanks to some very talented people out there, ;) they've made an average piece of kit good. It's just a pity some of the commercials dont do the same.They're the ones who's brains need wiring up....to the mains (some of them !)The thing is Rats, is 2002 a game or a simulator ? I know the Real ATC flights were dogged in review, (unfairly I thought)However, they are a challenge and you do get a score at the end, it's programs like Real ATC that make 2002 more of a simulator as it emulates "real" flight and for the gamers....a score !Ratsarse....what a name ! :-beerchugGeorge

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Hi George,Agree to a point.Now, for the first time, you can really do some real VFR navigation, and not rely on VORs, GPS etc. Now, if people are interested in simulating flying in the SE UK, they can go the extra mile and purchase charts and (God forbid) a whiz wheel, set up real world weather, and experience the thrills of becoming "temporarily unware of position" :).Yes it is expensive. But you are paying for a significant enhancement to the simulation experience, just as people pay hundreds of

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