Second time of asking since I recieved no reply from anyone the first time.Is there any way of toning down this effect or refining the engine? I'm sick and tired of finishing a flight in a flaming wreck because my A330/A340 has been downed by wake turbulance from a Cessna or Moony Bravo. This is quite simply NOT RIGHT.I rarely experience any WT following any other aircraft but for some reason the small single props manage to spoil my day. I do fly with adequate seperation but nearly always experience this OTT effect when following a light single (upto 10NM behind) which 9 times out of 10 causes complete loss of control.The other issues I'm not worried about because they are well documented and will no doubt be resolved (besides even with the problems it's still way better than default.cheers in advance

You can switch wake turbulence simulation off from the options menu.If you are unhappy with the wake tubulence then disabling it is probably the best option for you at the moment.

That's a stupid reply. Why turn it off? It's not that he's unhappy with it. I believe he has a valid point here. Good example, flying in on the Captainsim 727 last night and hit some unGodly wake turbulence at the end of KTUS 11L on approach with no heavies in the area at that time. The aircraft becomes completely unmanageable beyond what would seem realistic. I can understand some buffeting and side to side movement but I think the Wake Turbulence is a little harsh. Turning this off does not resolve the issue it is simply ignoring it. Considering we just paid for this newly enhance program I believe we have the right to ask these questions and since they are about to release a "maintenance" release maybe they could put an option to adjust it within the program.Johnny

To all here,No, there is no way to reduce wake turbulance besides turning it off. Please do not tell me this is a dumb answer. FYI, wake turbulence strength is determined by the registration code of the aircraft. Also, wake turb. is only valid for UP TO 3 miles. ANY plane out of this range is NOT causing wake turb. It IS possible that local winds caused these events.You can ask anything you want, but name calling and personal attacks will NOT be tolerated. Hope this helps,JimActiveSky Support

JimEasy does it man! You will blow a gasket ;-)OK, that said - I was on approach to VTSP (Phuket) in a 737-700 following by some 8 miles or so a B747-400. The B747-400 had left the active and as I descended to around 3-400 feet AGL the aircraft nose first swung violently to the right and upon my correcting this swung even further to the left resulting in my approach being aborted as the aircraft was pushed quite some distance off the correct approach lined up with the taxiway at 150 feet AGL.I would have thought that the generated turbulance would have disipated by the time I reached the runway - you know what thought did.I must admit that the violence of the simulated turbulence whilst adding an element of realism and a challenge in that I was forced to execute a missed approach was a little excessive and I have now switched it off. Oh yes, from memory the winds were for all intents and purposes headwinds and the second approach was totally uneventful with the aircraft tracking the glideslope as if glued to it right down to touchdown.For those interested there is an interesting explanation of how to avoid wake turbulance. The link is below.http://www.avweb.com/news/airman/183095-1.htmlActually, I may turn it back on after reading the above article and try a manual approach above the glideslope or upwind.Best wishesAndy B

Andy,I'm cool!! But a first time poster will not react like that towards a team member or anyone else who is trying to help!In your case did you check with AS to see if a wake turb. event was generated? It will tell you in the message area at the very bottom.Edit: Please keep us up to date on these things. It is possible that the effect is active for too long. Hope this helps,JimActiveSky Support

Hi Andy,"OK, that said - I was on approach to VTSP (Phuket) in a 737-700 following by some 8 miles or so a B747-400. The B747-400 had left the active"As soon as an AI aircraft is slower than 50kts ground speed it can no longer cause a wake. This was the not the aircraft that caused the wake in your case. Very common. Most people don't even see the aircraft around them that are causing the wake. Remember, just like in real life, you have to be constantly scanning the skies around you. Probably another one very close. Checked any TCAS gauges? " and as I descended to around 3-400 feet AGL the aircraft nose first swung violently to the right and upon my correcting this swung even further to the left resulting in my approach being aborted as the aircraft was pushed quite some distance off the correct approach lined up with the taxiway at 150 feet AGL."Sounds very similar to a real-life event I had landing at KONT behind a 744 who had went around at the last moment crossing the fence. :) I was only in a Piper WarriorII though.Obviously a 737 is not going to shake so much, but again, the wake-generating aircraft WAS NOT the one that had left the active. There was probably another heavier aircraft very close by.The AS2004 wake turbulence simulation obviously has some limitations based on the technology available to us, the confines of FS, and what can realistically be done to detect and generate an effect.The goal of our wake turbulence simulation is to REQUIRE that you are vigilant in keeping proper distance from aircraft and utilizing proper wake turbulence avoidance procedures if you are to safely complete a flight. I think that goal is achieved and despite limitations you'll find it is the FIRST, most refined, and most advanced wake turbulence simulation available for desktop flight simulation. We are proud of what we've accomplished here, but we realize there is always room for improvement. Advanced wake turbulence generation and simulation with multiple trail tracking with wind effects is coming, as well as many other exciting features in this department.-Damian

Hi There,Sorry no response the first time, things have been very busy around here and sometimes things can slip through, but you did the right thing by posting again... Thanks..Wake cannot be caused by an aircraft more than 2-3 miles in front of you. A very common "non-issue" reported. Many users fail to notice the aircraft that is just under their nose or elsewhere out of view. Very common in the arrival area of a busy airport.Obviously wake turbulence is very subjective. Remember our goal for AS2004 wake is not necessarily to replicate the exact behavior and experience of wake as it is in real life (although we are striving to get there eventually), but rather to facililate the requirement of wake turbulence awareness and avoidance procedures.I think the best solution in the interim, until the next wake turbulence effort, is to provide an intensity adjustment option for the wake. Those who don't ever want their flight "interrupted" by wake can turn this way down, those who want wake to spoil everything (like me) can turn it up. I will work on this for MR1..Hope that helps!Damian ClarkHiFi Simulation SoftwareDeveloper of ActiveSkyhttp://www.hifisim.comhttp://www.hifisim.com/images/as2004betateam.jpg

G'day DamianI appreciate your comments and do recognise you have produced a nice piece of software to assist in the immersion factor in FS.However, Phuket is not a busy airport and apart from my aircraft there was a single aircraft parked, one taxying to the active (must have virtually crapped himself when he saw me headed for his cockpit window)and the 747-400. Nothing else in the vicinity. Could it be as Jim suggested that the effects are hanging around a little longer than anticipated?BTW, looking forward to the MR in a few weeks time. Just leaving WSSS approaching cruise altitude the winds swung round all over the place causing the aircraft to experience significant variations to climb rate and heading within a matter of only a few minutes.RegardsAndy b

Great response - this will cover the whole spectrunm of happy (and I mean happy) users.Your attention to customer support is without comparison.Thank youAndy B

Hey Jim, for your information I am not a first time poster (had to reactivate my account for not using it within specified time), and further more I did not "attack a team member". I basically stated that turning off the wake turbelence was a stupid reply because it does not fix the issue. As was stated by the developer they are possibly working on a slider to adjust the intensity of the amount of wake generated. That is a great answer! So basically I am sorry you did not like my post, but I really feel I was not rude or attacking in any manner.Johnny

Ok guys heres a clue. "Wake turbulence encounter complete" or words to that effect in activesky main window. So it was not "local winds". I'm not a total idiot and I do take time to investigate/solve/find causes of problems before posting into ANY support arena. I am also well aware of how WT effects real aircraft. (ATC&PPL)Wake turb activated by aircraft reg???? explain please. A British B747 can have G-EUUA a British Cessna152 could have G-EUUB. So if you are using reg to determine aircraft size, I'd re-evaluate and find another way. If not disregard.The whole point of it is, I experience ZERO/NONE/ZILCH/ZIP noticable WT following any aircraft which should produce these effects. The only time is following light GA aircraft, which as stated before is incorrect. The effect, 99% of the time produces complete loss of control of the aircraft. This i would expect if I was flying the cessna and the aircraft ahead was a heavy NOT vice versa as I very frequently experience. (Bear in mind I'm talking about the user aircraft being a Airbus, usually a Heavy variant eg A330/340).The first post "just turn it off" was very unconstructive and very unlike the usual service provided by Damian and his "staff" I wouldn't be too suprised if, it put off a couple of potential customers from purchasing a HiFi product something which is definately not what Damian would want.I look forward to the fix

To All,OK, it's what I get for trying to celebrate New Year's Day and answer posts at the same time. Certain magic liquids take over and things don't come out right.:-erks :-erks :-erks Hope this helps,JimActiveSky Support

Just wanted to add that I too experienced this weird phenomenon coming in to the Seattle airport just 15 minutes ago. I was about 1000 AGL when the plane just dove for the ground. I somehow managed to pull it out of the dive about a foot or two off the ground. I copied and pasted the exact metars that were being used at the time in hopes that it might be useful when trying to look into this problem in the code. Though if the problem is with wake turbulence, then I doubt the metar will do much good. However there were no planes cleared before me on approach to seattle so I am not sure what could have caused the wake turbulanceRyanKSEA 060356Z 08011KT 10SM FEW050 BKN080 M04/M16 A3037 RMK AO2 SLP289 T10391156KSEA 052325Z 060024 08009KT P6SM BKN050 OVC120 FM0900 05009KT P6SM SCT025 OVC050 TEMPO 0912 5SM -SN BR OVC022 FM1200 05010KT 3SM -SN SCT012 OVC022 TEMPO 1620 1/2SM SN OVC008 FM2100 14008KT 3SM -RASN BR SCT008 OVC018FL030: 117/22 (-5.4) FL060: 191/10 (-3.6) FL090: 219/10 (-6.7)FL120: 280/24 (-13.4) FL180: 289/56 (-21.1) FL240: 288/73 (-32.2)FL300: 292/81 (-38.8) FL340: 288/108 (-55.4) FL390: 293/91 (-58.9)***Route-Based Wind Smoothing features enabled - processed data may not match real-time reports!***For absolute accurate data, turn off Wind Smoothing...