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I was flying the Seneca today and there were some weird Phenomina, strong winds in the south of the UK flying down to Plymouth with overcast clouds while deep blue one hundred miles North and hardly a drop of wind.The air too was strange with silky smooth air but some quite violent patches of clear air turbulence.I came across this strange depression carved out in the clouds. The picture is untouched and I cant remember the line running down it.I presume this is some shadow effect or light change due to the camera.Flying over the depression there was a massive sink rate with the aircraft on autopilot.Any ideas?

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These two pics show the difference in weather over a hundred mile span the black whole was taken this morning these two pics on the return this afternoon

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I would imagine that if you flew over the same spot tomorrow that you would find a crop circle there! :-lolGreat pics,Mike T.

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Well I am just a stupid simmer and really can't tell you what this is, but the hell, it looks damn great :-hah!!! :-eek :-hah :-hah

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ElrondNow my secrets out :-halo Dont let this out to the press about the imminent invasion or the later photo which you hacked showing me landing into an aperture in that craft...New years eve....or so they told me (the little green men although I thought they were clones of Tom)Infact the craft had Avsim painted on the top side :-)Peter

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Yes, that could be the effect as seen from above. As I said I dont remember seeing the ridge line in the indentation and it wasnt as dark! but it was there.Maybe it had strange effects on my camera as the ADF needle started spinning, the gyros went haywire and we lost all radio contact for at least five minutes.Before you think this is a hoax shot it isnt, not quite what I saw with my eyes but close.Peter

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>...>>Flying over the depression there was a massive sink rate >with the aircraft on autopilot. >>Any ideas? The "massive sink rate" is consistent with the lack of cloud because descending air warms and dries. A relatively small area of descent, such as implied by the pictures, is a little unusual, but most likely explained by the high altitude wind pattern. If the air at high levels happened to be converging at that spot, there is nowhere for it to go but DOWN.Art.

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ArtI tend to agree I feel this was caused by some strange vertical air movement.Before flying over the indentation there was areas of quite heavy clear air turbulence followed by super smooth air.What has puzzled me is why the camera took the indentation in that form.This shot has genuinely not been touched but i cant remember seeing that ridge in the indentation which is clear in the picture.I will have to put it down to "strange but true".And no folks this isnt clever artistry on my part Peter

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Hi Peter,The ridge in the depression actually looks like a reflection on the windscreen of the inst. panel glare shield.Cool looking though.Cheers,JohnBoeing 727/737 mechanic

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Peter I've modeled up some clouds for you in Maya unlimited to show you what hopefully one day we can have in Flightsim it's an mpeg file about 1.3 meg. If you want to see it just email me. BTW are there any cooling towers for nuclear power plants in that area?. Would it be near Mayfield?(south of EGKK) Dan(Oh great post as usual!!)

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JohnA possibility ! this would account for the ridge which wasnt visible through the naked eye in the depression in the real cloud.But not totally convinced as I normally see screen reflections quite clearly and its amazing that it fitted the natural indentation so perfectly.Oh well they talk of C rop Circles maybe this has started P rop Circles.Planes will be circling around and around in the cloud tops at dead of night carving out no end of patterns :-)Peter

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Dan Would love to see these Maya clouds so please do E mail to me.No this was taken North of BCN Vor with the Brecon Mountains belowPeter

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Dan I took this the evening before the indentation pic while returning from another location, makes a nice model for Mayo Peter

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Peter I no longer have you email just email me with yours and I will of course get back to you. Now it's been 10 yrs since I've flown over the U.K is Brecon Vor on the Devon coast? Dan Dan

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Hi Peter,Could this have been caused be a unusal local wind pattern created by the wind moving across the Breacons, I have a pic in a wx book which shows a simular cloud from the ground, a very 'defined' edge, not a complete hole tho, U shaped in this pic. It states ' the Chinook, a famous downslope wind that occurs in North America has caused this unusual cloud formation '. ? Cheers,Squitters.

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SquittersI would go with that as on the return at around 10,000 feet I Hit a very bad patch of clear air turbulence in almost the same location but this time the clouds had moved away.The only thing against this is the fact that the winds werent strong in this area and I still feel the effect was caused from above rather than terrain generatedPeter

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