September 27, 200520 yr From everything I have heard the PFC rudders and yokes are top notch. Question - does the pressure required to be applied adjust commensurate to airspeed. If so, that is incredible. If not, do they give enough realism to justify the expense.
September 27, 200520 yr "(...) does the pressure required to be applied adjust commensurate to airspeed (...)"That would be a form of force-feedback, which I don't think is available in any yoke or rudder.Jaap Verduijn.
September 27, 200520 yr No, the rudder pressure does not vary with airspeed...exactly but there is progressive force neseccary to depress the pedals...which is about as real as it is going to get without a motion base sim. I think they are well worth the money expecially compared to the CH rudders...which are WAY better than nothing but which have no resistence at all...although a friend created the need for pressure with some bungee cords!All PFC gear are built like tanks and their service/support is utterly outstanding.For example, after years of use, the controller in my digital power quad died...quite likely due to a power surge during a thunder storm.I sent the module in to PFC and it was repaired and SHIPPED back to me the day they received it in for service. It just doesn't get any better than THAT!Regards,Jim
September 27, 200520 yr Hello All, I have had a PFC built AETI table yoke or the past 6 years. I would venture to say that it gets used at least 2 hrs per day, almost everyday, 365.In that time I have had 4 malfunctions, all internal springs which are very easy to repair -- and PFC will supply the springs for free or service the unit if you so desire.I slso have their rudder pedals -- without these fine controls my simming experience would be a lot less real. You just can't imagine how good it gets with great equipment.Best to all, Clayhttp://www.dreamfleet2000.com/gfx/images/F...ers/Dopke01.jpgClayton T. Dopke (Clay)Major, USAF (retired)"Drac"
September 27, 200520 yr I have the PFC floor-mounted column yoke, the Cirrus Jet pedals, and the throttle quad. In a jet, the control loading is done by means of springs and is not generally related to the air loads being experienced, although some jets do alter the spring feel tensions artificially. For me, with more than 4,000 hours doing it for real, the PFC controls are more than good enough.As far as construction...none better. Solid steel...built to last. Have had a couple pots go bad (with heavy usage) and PFC replaced them cheerfully each time.Can't even remember what it was like before having this stuff!CheersBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-V L-300Santiago de Chile Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
September 27, 200520 yr Commercial Member I truly have to agree with all comments made in regards to PFC's flight equipment. I own the Column Yoke and the Cirrus Mooney Yoke. I am thinking on trading in my Cirrus Yoke for a set of the rudder pedals since it is just gathering dust.I am in the process of buying another Column Yoke for a dual station Dash 8 Procedural Training Device (PTD) see attached picture for illustration. I usually self service my yoke every four to six months due to its high usage. But it helps to keep the precision on cue. The only downside is that sometimes Windows XP does not recognize the yoke so you have to unplug and plugin again (this I think is a WinXp problem). This is really no big real, simply check your devices before loading your flight sim program.Sales and service is a breeze and the sales rep. (Kimberly) is very helpful. Credit orders have to taken over the phone though.http://www.majesticsoftware.com/HW/PQ/pq2.jpgGood Luck in your decision KROSWYND a.k.a KILO_WHISKEYMajestic Software Development/Support Sys 1: AMD 7950X3D, NOCTUA D15S, Gigabyte Elite B650, MSI 4090, 64Gb Ram, Corsair 850 Power Supply, 2x2TB M.2 Samsung 980s, 1x4TB WDD M.2, 6xNoctua 120mm case fans, LG C2 55" OLED running at 120Hz for the monitor, Win11. Sys 2: i7 8700k, MSI GAMING MBoard, 32Gigs RAM, MSI 4070Ti & EVGA 1080Ti. Hardware: Brunner CLS-E-NG Yoke, Fulcrum One yoke, TM TPR Rudder Pedals, Yoko TQ6+ NEO, StreamDeck, Tobii Eye Tracker, Virpil VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Base with a TM gripSIMULATORS: MSFS2020/XP12/P3D v5.4 & v6: YouTube Videos
September 27, 200520 yr I greatly appreciate all the comments...very simple conclusion...its time to get them.
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