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Question about real flying procedures

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hi andrei, i do not fly using ATC as the fs ATC is hopeless with addon aircraft. as previously stated, loading the full route with sids and stars at departure airport makes sense, when selecting the star for arrival and the runway you should find three or four waypoints listed under the selected runway one of which is usually the IAP which you can compare with the arrival chart glide slope ( assuming you are using charts), and the approach at that point is usually ok. this system works fine for me, hope it helps. richard welsh.

Richard Welsh

Andrei,I thought I'd add a comment about Departure Procedures in the United States.When you file your IFR flight plan you can either include a DP you think might be suitable or just enter the first fix along your proposed route. When you receive your IFR clearance, at busy airports, ATC will either allocate you a DP (amending your filed flight plan) or run with what you proposed originally.You have to be in possession of the DP description before you can legally accept a DP as part of your route (a text description as a minimum). If you definitely do not want to be allocated a DP then you can file the comment 'No DP' in the comments section of the flight plan, in which case ATC will not allocate one for you.My experience (albeit in smaller planes than those modelled by PMDG) is that, even when allocated a DP by ATC, you invariably end up being vectored once in contact with departure control after takeoff. The only time I've actually ended up flying a full DP is leaving Teterboro on the notorious TEB 5 DP - notorious for pilots busting the tight altitude restrictions on the first two fixes and then conflicting with traffic landing at Newark (which tends to excite the controllers). Check out the NASA aviation safety reporting system for a few reports on this (http://akama.arc.nasa.gov/ASRSDBOnline/QueryWizard_Filter.aspx).James

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