Hello,I am trying to build a flight plan from London, Heathrow to Lisboa (Lisbon), Portugal (EGLL->LPPT). However, I am having a little difficulty haha. I have tried following FSBuilds tutorials but they are somewhat limited.Firstly, I am attempting to build it by hand. I know pilots in real-life do not build their flight plans, so should I just hit autogenerate? But it feels more rewarding when I build my own (WHEN I manage to do a short, simple flight plan)? Does the "auto-generate" button build valid flight plans all the time?Secondly, I know "what" I need to do in order to manually create routes, but I shall outline some difficulties I face when doing so:So I put in my departure (EGLL) and destination (LPPT) airport into the correct boxes. Then click PM, then GCR to get the shortest ideal route.1. Then I select an ideal SID which is close, which I have done as shown in the image here.2. Then, I am guessing, I right-click the SAM waypoint and select "Show all airways that pass through this waypoint"? Also, do I select high-altitude airways or low altitude? If I have just departed, I will surely be below the high-alt airway limit (ie. < 18,000 feet)?3. Jumping one step ahead, I have chosen high altitude airways. I have right-clicked and selected "Show all airways..." and it came up with the one I have selected in this picture:which is UN866.4. So next I find SAM in the list of waypoints, and right click it and choose "From". This then spurs the next question; I have zoomed in on LPPT for the next step. I guess I choose an ideal STAR that is close to the GCR, which is the REAL7A STAR. However, as you can see in the picture below, there are NO airways that pass through the MTL waypoint (which is where the STAR begins), NOR is there any airways that pass through the TERVA waypoint (which is the closest waypoint to the beginning of the STAR)... so I'm stuck getting from TERVA to MTL. And I thought it was law to only fly to and from a destination via airways unless it was a NAT.Perhaps this is simpler than I am making it out to be... or because this is an example that uses only one airway, maybe someone is able to show me how to plan on, say, a trip from EGLL to VHHH which is pretty long and would exploit a lot of airways... or whatever would be a great help!RegardsKelvin

I've always used auto-generate. As long as you have up to date data in your system (downloaded from their website) it uses known routes to build the flight. It'll also grab the correct routes if you are flying over the ocean based on the day's actual data. They also have links to several websites where you can get the actual real routes and them paste them into the system to build.I know you can build your own, but I've always been happy with what it generates. It is a powerful tool.

Why don't you just go to VATroute and get your flightplan there?http://vatroute.netcheers,tobi

Ok excellent, thanks a lot. I will probably click the auto-generate button in the future haha, it is far simpler.Could someone tell me where people on this forum get the real-world filed flight plans? Ie. where the British Airways and Virgin Atlantic flight plans are available from? I do not understand how they are available so quickly :-SRegardsKelvin

I get most of my flight plans generated by this: http://rfinder.asalink.net/free/It's much faster than FSB auto generate. Then just cut & paste the routefinder plan into FSBuild. I find that most of the time, the Routefinder plan is better, shorter, neater than the FSB autogen. I do sometimes still go in and clean up a bit manually in plan mode but not nearly as much as when using auto generate.

Actually there is a link within FSBuild to that site as well.