I have been having a blast this week flying an Osprey in RealFlight G4.5 Remote Control simulator. So much so that I have become interested in experiencing a tilt rotor from the cockpit. Alpha-Sim makes the Osprey and Wilco the Bell 609. The Wilco is newer, which sometimes means better... is that true in this case?Any pros or cons for either the Alphasim Osprey or the Wilco 609?Are there any freeware tilt rotors? I still have FS9 installed if any have been made for it.Robert

Mate i was so upset when i first brought the wilco and the flight characteristics were so bad.Then installed the patch and Air New Zealand repaint it was OK.Cockpit Glass was OK/Great!!Since have taken it off my system have it there but no more in my hanger:)CheersWaka172rg

ive heard the wilco one handles like the extra 300, just plain out of control

yep you dead rite but if you want it its better than nothing don't try the hover from the cockpit :(

So even after the patch it is impossible to hover? I fly almost exclusively from the VC... looks like a "no go".Robertquote name='waka172rg' date='Jul 15 2009, 06:15 AM' post='1604980']yep you dead rite but if you want it its better than nothing don't try the hover from the cockpit :(

That's how i found it mate but if you like a good vc cockpit and visual mode get it. but i have taken it off for now till i need some screenshots its always good to have tho.

Mate i was so upset when i first brought the wilco and the flight characteristics were so bad.Then installed the patch and Air New Zealand repaint it was OK.Cockpit Glass was OK/Great!!Since have taken it off my system have it there but no more in my hanger:)CheersWaka172rg

Hello Waka172rg,Where can I find the patch for the Wilco Tilit Rotor 609?Thank you for your helpHave a good dayBenoit

Here is the link to wilcos website support login and download the patch.CheersWaka172rg

I was looking over Alphasim's Osprey and apparently minimum forward speed in a "hover" is thirty knots. Whoa... Is that true???Robert

Here is the link to wilcos website support login and download the patch.CheersWaka172rg

Here is the link to wilcos website support login and download the patch.CheersWaka172rg

Hello Waka172rg,Thank you very much for the informatiionsHave a good dayBenoit

I've used the Alphasim Osprey for awhile now and like it. The airframe modelling is outstanding. I have some issues with the panel (it looks like the guages were taken from an F-117 that has a heads up display, but the V-22 does not. Therefore, the glass panel does not enable me to view the primary flight instruments at the same time as the engine instruments). Everything else is very nice and fun to fly.There is a cure available for the default inability to hover. A guage add-on was produced that enabled vertical take off and landing and works very well. I'm sorry, but I cannot remember the file name, but it should show up on searches.Happy flying,GW

I've used the Alphasim Osprey for awhile now and like it. The airframe modelling is outstanding. I have some issues with the panel (it looks like the guages were taken from an F-117 that has a heads up display, but the V-22 does not. Therefore, the glass panel does not enable me to view the primary flight instruments at the same time as the engine instruments). Everything else is very nice and fun to fly.There is a cure available for the default inability to hover. A guage add-on was produced that enabled vertical take off and landing and works very well. I'm sorry, but I cannot remember the file name, but it should show up on searches.Happy flying,GW

I DO remember :( For FSX Alphasim V22 Version2, it's file rcbvca11.zip ; available o.a. in the flightsim.com library (and here at avsim if/when the library gets online again).And to Robert Alley:Especially in the FSX version, the Wilco Tilrotor BA609 is an exceptional aircraft IMO; a must-have if you kick on Tiltrotor-type aircraft.(this includes my VTOL stuff already).Compared to the Alphasim V22, it has slightly better flightdynamics, and a much better VC.But the visual model of the BA609 is truly outstanding, especially if you observe all the Tiltrotor- specific animations; like rotating nacelles, tilting rotors on the nacelles, proppitch animations, etc......So compared to the Alpha V22, the Wilco BA609 is a better product IMO (not surprisingly, since the Alpha V22 Osprey basically is a 4-year old product).One word of caution though: the glasscockpit of the BA609 is a real frame hog; which makes it almost unflyable unless you have a powerfull and state-of-the-art PC (that is: 8-10 fps on my 3-year old PC for me is unflyable).But with a few simple tricks (subtituting the three main display gauges by default FSX gauges), this can be solved easily (with a little less gauge functionality of course). On my PC, that almost double the framerate.Cheers, Rob Barendregt

Has anybody tried a 20 to 25 kt wind to 'aid' in hovering? Just curious. I find I can hover in both FS9 and FSX with a 22 to 24 kt wind. Don't know if this is considered 'cheating', but how else can one do it? Wind does not effect handling as far as speed or turning is concerned, so I do it. What ever works.I made a short video of V22 in FSX. Here is link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4ASvtlxvAM . I plan one more, showing aerobatics and Mach 4 speeds.Chuck BNapamule