WELL HELLO, first of all nice work PMDG! well i have a problem whit the new type, becaus it seam that the JS4100 dont want to work corect with my Elite throttel a problem i never have had whit your other products. If i want to use the throttel i can se it ad power but in a funny way the engine get unstabel. but i think i know what the problem is becaus if you look at the throttel leaver inside the plane it dosent move as i use my hardware. I think it gets unstabel as the eng dont know if it should use the interface from the hardware or the one in the cokpit. so the thing i mean whit unstabel is the eng moves from 80% to 30% then to 80% and so on. Hope it can be fixed. have a nice day

WELL HELLO, first of all nice work PMDG! well i have a problem whit the new type, becaus it seam that the JS4100 dont want to work corect with my Elite throttel a problem i never have had whit your other products. If i want to use the throttel i can se it ad power but in a funny way the engine get unstabel. but i think i know what the problem is becaus if you look at the throttel leaver inside the plane it dosent move as i use my hardware. I think it gets unstabel as the eng dont know if it should use the interface from the hardware or the one in the cokpit. so the thing i mean whit unstabel is the eng moves from 80% to 30% then to 80% and so on. Hope it can be fixed. have a nice day

Please fully sign your post to get fully supported (forum rules, made the same mistake myself before :( )I am having the same problems with my ELITE King Air Quad, take a look here:http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtop...29&hl=ELITEA quite logical explaination ....

Please fully sign your post to get fully supported (forum rules, made the same mistake myself before :( )I am having the same problems with my ELITE King Air Quad, take a look here:http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtop...29&hl=ELITEA quite logical explaination ....

well thx for the tip. but it dont help that much as i dont want to changes again. i dont realy understand why they then have chagesed it for this aircraft i know that there some times are som problems whit the old way of using the autopilot throttel system but nothing more. now you are sayeing changes or fly as it is.well the only thing i can say is that i am so angry as there is so many problems then you have hardware. it cant be that hard to build somthing that works. becaus all are doeing it different ways then you have a type where the autopilot works so nice and something els dosent. there need to be more standards of creating harware software and aircrafttyps.so i am disapointed that PMDG have changesed the throttel system, becaus no problems whit PMDG md 11 and 747. but i am sory to say that i think this is last time i get some thing from PMDG! as i dont want to spend more money on somthing i cant use. well at this movement the best aircraft i got is Fokker 70/100, from digital-aviation there it all works also autothrottel whit the elite no problems, as there is whit many other add-ons whit autopilot. the time is to work together, to work out some standarts as it iritates that you can buy so many products that is diferent where 1 is nice loking and another type isent but where the systems works nice. I think many have the same in mind. it is a bit like the arianedesign thy have such a high price on there 737 series but the aircraft also works in the start i know it only was the systems and effects they was creating but now as i can se they have started to work together whit navigraph to get an fmc that works beter then the first one where it has its limitations. but a bit higher price, and a compleat type is better the 10 incompleat types. If you can se the point. and a closer conection to the ones that create hardware as if you ask them it is a junkel to find out how it works i think. Best regards,Lars Nielsen :(

so i am disapointed that PMDG have changesed the throttel system, becaus no problems whit PMDG md 11 and 747. but i am sory to say that i think this is last time i get some thing from PMDG! as i dont want to spend more money on somthing i cant use. well at this movement the best aircraft i got is Fokker 70/100, from digital-aviation there it all works also autothrottel whit the elite no problems, as there is whit many other add-ons whit autopilot. the time is to work together, to work out some standarts as it iritates that you can buy so many products that is diferent where 1 is nice loking and another type isent but where the systems works nice. I think many have the same in mind. it is a bit like the arianedesign thy have such a high price on there 737 series but the aircraft also works in the start i know it only was the systems and effects they was creating but now as i can se they have started to work together whit navigraph to get an fmc that works beter then the first one where it has its limitations. but a bit higher price, and a compleat type is better the 10 incompleat types. If you can se the point. and a closer conection to the ones that create hardware as if you ask them it is a junkel to find out how it works i think. Best regards,Lars Nielsen :(

Well Lars I think your dropping the hammer on PMDG is unfair since the problem that you are experiencing is with a product that was not truly designed to work with FS2004/FSX. Elite was kind enough to have their programmers create a module that would interface with the MSFS series so that users of Eilte products could get the best of both worlds. Also it is not mandatory for a development company to verify that all makes/models of throttle quadrants work with their product.The reason you may be having problems with the J41's throttle system is probably to do with MS FSX's crappy turboprop emulation. Most of the time when developing complex turboprop aircraft programming has to done to work around the buggy turboprop problem. this I know for a fact will and can cause problems with the Elite throttle quadrant because of the logic board within. It is designed to talk with FSUIPC but it does not give full permissions for FSUIPC to manipulate functionality. Now it has been a while since I have used my Elite quadrant but I am not sure if there is anyway that you can go into the utility module and manuipulte the control settings to get the desired response from the PMDG aircraft in question. i know for a project that we worked on a few years ago we had to hack the code to make it work with the Majestic Dash 8 but after several releases of FSUIPC it became tiresome have to hack the code continuously to make it work.Until Elite designs a throttle quadrant that is independent of their Universal Control Interface and does not have a logic board that will inhibit external intervention some aircraft models will not work to your satisfaction. Again PMDG is not to held responsible for this

Well Lars I think your dropping the hammer on PMDG is unfair since the problem that you are experiencing is with a product that was not truly designed to work with FS2004/FSX. Elite was kind enough to have their programmers create a module that would interface with the MSFS series so that users of Eilte products could get the best of both worlds. Also it is not mandatory for a development company to verify that all makes/models of throttle quadrants work with their product.The reason you may be having problems with the J41's throttle system is probably to do with MS FSX's crappy turboprop emulation. Most of the time when developing complex turboprop aircraft programming has to done to work around the buggy turboprop problem. this I know for a fact will and can cause problems with the Elite throttle quadrant because of the logic board within. It is designed to talk with FSUIPC but it does not give full permissions for FSUIPC to manipulate functionality. Now it has been a while since I have used my Elite quadrant but I am not sure if there is anyway that you can go into the utility module and manuipulte the control settings to get the desired response from the PMDG aircraft in question. i know for a project that we worked on a few years ago we had to hack the code to make it work with the Majestic Dash 8 but after several releases of FSUIPC it became tiresome have to hack the code continuously to make it work.Until Elite designs a throttle quadrant that is independent of their Universal Control Interface and does not have a logic board that will inhibit external intervention some aircraft models will not work to your satisfaction. Again PMDG is not to held responsible for this

Well what can i say it is stil not good enough as goflight also dosent work 100 %. Creating a system that nearly no throttel hardware works whit is not funny. so it is not this way PMDG get costumers! then they know how most hardware works, what about then work somthing out that works, or get a closer partnership whit hardware companys as it is bothe hardware and software companys that have to get customers and they first come if things works then all are hapy. and it could be much betterBest regards,Lars Nielsen :(

Well what can i say it is stil not good enough as goflight also dosent work 100 %. Creating a system that nearly no throttel hardware works whit is not funny. so it is not this way PMDG get costumers! then they know how most hardware works, what about then work somthing out that works, or get a closer partnership whit hardware companys as it is bothe hardware and software companys that have to get customers and they first come if things works then all are hapy. and it could be much betterBest regards,Lars Nielsen :(

Lars you are blowing this out of proportion. The last time that I checked a software development company is not obligated to ensure that their product works with specific hardware. The key functionality here is to ensure that the product works within the realms of the simulation platform which PMDG has done for the majority minus the few bugs that have arisen . Now if no one at PMDG uses Elite throttle quadrants I can see where this issue would be overlooked, and since Elite quadrants ARE NOT designed specifically for the MSFS platform. What you and other Elite users can do is go to the Elite forum and check with Calvin who is pretty good in giving advice regarding issue such as this. However I can almost guarantee that Elite is not going to go above and beyond to re-engineer there code just for 1 MSFS add-on, especially since there is no financial benefit for Elite as a company.The other thing that you should take into consideration is that the majority of PMDG's customer base does not use Elite's quadrant for flight simming. Now I used to use mine for MSFS products but after I had several incompatibility issues with two specific turboprop models I broke down and bought a Ch Products throttle quadrant and have since then upgraded to a PFC quadrant. If I need to use my Elite quadrant it is specifically for instrument work in the Elite simulator system.

Lars you are blowing this out of proportion. The last time that I checked a software development company is not obligated to ensure that their product works with specific hardware. The key functionality here is to ensure that the product works within the realms of the simulation platform which PMDG has done for the majority minus the few bugs that have arisen . Now if no one at PMDG uses Elite throttle quadrants I can see where this issue would be overlooked, and since Elite quadrants ARE NOT designed specifically for the MSFS platform. What you and other Elite users can do is go to the Elite forum and check with Calvin who is pretty good in giving advice regarding issue such as this. However I can almost guarantee that Elite is not going to go above and beyond to re-engineer there code just for 1 MSFS add-on, especially since there is no financial benefit for Elite as a company.The other thing that you should take into consideration is that the majority of PMDG's customer base does not use Elite's quadrant for flight simming. Now I used to use mine for MSFS products but after I had several incompatibility issues with two specific turboprop models I broke down and bought a Ch Products throttle quadrant and have since then upgraded to a PFC quadrant. If I need to use my Elite quadrant it is specifically for instrument work in the Elite simulator system.

WELL you can say what you want it is stil not ok. As Elite is the best one i ever tryed. i got goflight before and always problems whit reverse and another thing is that i have been talking to Elite this year about another arcraft type but i was not abel, to tel how it works.But the main point is that hardware and software companys should work closer together. so we can get some standarts, that would work whit hardware as it should do. today it is like the companyes creates things as they want. i know it is to get things realistic and that is nice but it isent nice that hardware cant be used. and i cant se the point as Goflight also have problems whit the aircraft type so you should not say it is only becaus it was not created for FS and use it as an argument. so right now i am missing that funktion as flight1 had if you dont like it money back and uninstall from your system!

WEll it is a bit like building a car, include all kind of good things and then forget to get create the software so it can comunicat, whit other hardware then the original. so other hardware dosent work, but it isent that way.And it is not only PMDG it is to, it is to all flightsim add-on companys! as it is iritating to pay so much money for hardware that dosent work to geteher whit software. when you get something new you dont know what there was goeing to work. sorry i am so angry, but it is not funny to pay for something you cant use as hardware is a must. for peopel like me takes that takes flyeing serius.

Well most of us do take Flight simulation seriously as I integrate it into my career as a supplemental training tool. The Elite throttle quadrant could not deliver the results that I expected, so I made the executive decision to purchase an addition to my home cockpit. I do understand your frustration, but again this is not something that you should be slapping PMDG with.

Well most of us do take Flight simulation seriously as I integrate it into my career as a supplemental training tool. The Elite throttle quadrant could not deliver the results that I expected, so I made the executive decision to purchase an addition to my home cockpit. I do understand your frustration, but again this is not something that you should be slapping PMDG with.

well crosswindwhat throttel hardware type / model is it you have. and does it also work whit jet airplanes and how is the reverse effect if it have it. just as info i dont have any money to any hardware.Well i think i konw what the problem is between the aircraft type end elite hardware as if i set eng to reverse the littel thing in frot of the throttel in the aircraft type not sure about is nam is gust lock. is moving back and moving foarward then i use full throttel. so it is that i control insted of the throttel i think.Best regards,Lars Nielsen.