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Has Mike Stone moved to the White House?

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Weren't computers designed to simplify our lives? I thought so, but today I decided that if they were, someone screwed up.Tried to send Mike Stone an email earlier today, just to let him know that I'd knocked up a quick panel for his "Twin Pin" (TWINPANEL.ZIP in the library today, by the way). Many hours later, received an email from a spam blocking company saying I was not on his "White List" (i.e. he hasn't kept my email address in his address book) and I would have to send in authorisation that I really wanted to send him an email. Er, yes, I did. Then some time later again, I get a note from The Spam Busters saying that I was rejected, that I could no longer send him emails, and that all FS stuff must go to his forum. Eh? All rather impolite, but OK, no problem. So I go to www.pmstone.com and try to enter one of his forums. Er, no, you gotta login or register, Dark Moment. OK, this is FSGateway, I think I logged in before. No, that doesn't work. Forgot password? No, but I'll try that .... no, that didn't work either. So I try to join anew, only to be told my passwords don't match. Eh? There's only a slot to enter it once. So I try to "report bugs", only to be told I must log in or register .... AAARRGGGGGGGHHHH!!!!Could our world be a little overcomplex, perhaps? This is only flightsim, not Capitol Hill! And Mike still doesn't have my email. If anyone sees him passing by in his stretch limo, would you knock on the window, please? Or can anyone lend me a carrier pigeon?Mark "Dark Moment" Beaumonthttp://www.swiremariners.com/newlogo.jpg

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Mark,In fairness to Mike, these things don't sound like his problems, but problems of the systems that many of us have had to put into place to protect ourselves against the junk we're sent. Sadly, those with good intentions get caught up as there's often no human minding the store.I had one user (who didn't care for a response I posted in these forums) email me a virus several months ago. At that point, I closed the gates and now unless a file has no attachments and mentions my work by name, it gets tossed. I doubt Mike has to worry about a stretch limo, but it seems if you release freeware and/or participate in the community, whatever you ride in should be bulletproof... And it's sad it's gotten to that level of complexity. -John

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<<>>Not knocking Mike at all, John ... just the complexity of our world today... <<>>Trouble is, they eat up the good stuff too sometimes. I'm a ship broker ... if I missed one critical email, I could be stuffed. So I have to deal with the junk until the ISPs or the Feds do .. so far, only about 60-70 a day and it doesn't take more than a minute to hit the REPORT SPAM button on AOL! My own server and POP3 seems safe so far, thank God ...<<>>>It's not a place for sensitive souls, that's for sure. There are a few in these forums who seem to sit on the fence like vultures waiting for flamebait, that's for sure ... and I know what you mean on the freeware front. It astonishes me that ANYONE can criticise stuff they don't even have to pay for. But that's an old chestnut ..Keep up your own good work, my friend.Mark "Dark Moment" Beaumonthttp://www.swiremariners.com/newlogo.jpg

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Mike also closed the e-mail doors because of tirades of criticism the way he was designing some models. The problem is that many responses were sent via e-mail in spite of the fact a forum is provided.I think on FSGateway you may find if I forgot my password link. You can also register under a new name with a new password and then after verification contact the administrator.Either way, Mike did announce that he would no longer be open to general e-mail but would provide an additional forum exclusively for model requests besides the discussion and news forums.To continue membership on these forums, certain liberal reasonable participation rules must be followed.

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Mark,As Managing Editor of FSGatway I would like to aplogize if you have been having a problem logging in. The site is under construction, but this is the first time I've heard of this problem. I will report it to the webmaster immediately and hopefully you will be able to join Mikes forum in short order.KJhttp://fsgateway.com/frank/fs9paibeta.jpg

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Thanks, Kevin. As I said in my email reply to you today, I am sure it's just me; there must be a weekly meeting at Hewlett Packard/Compaq working out ways to stuff Mark Beaumont THIS week. But it's all worth it in the end! If only the wife agreed ....Mark "Dark Moment" Beaumonthttp://www.swiremariners.com/newlogo.jpg

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Back to the topic line of the first post...If Mike Stone runs for President, I'll vote for him. His work is consistently excellent, which is more than I can say for any politician I've seen out there, in any party.

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poor soul...let me help you a bit ;-)"written by mr M Stone"Apologies in advanceI've learned that a long time user of my aircraft has been angered as a result of being snubbed by my e-mail system. I'm still working with the software so that it doesn't throw away the baby with the bath water, but in spite of best efforts, sometimes "Sh*t happens!". To add insult to injury, when directed here he had trouble getting registered and logging on, which the FSG gang is working on.SOOOOOOOOO....If you manage to get this far Mark you will find apologies waiting in advance. Even if you did have to go to the Whitehouse to get it. that says it all i trust ;-)

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you're welcome mate,Stone for President !!!kind regards

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I can't agree more on the complexity issue. Just peruse the PMDG forum, or check the Captain Sim archives around the time the three-holer was released. The choices of security software and protocol made by both of these companies has made buying these products far more difficult than it has to be. And I for one am turned off by having to wait for access codes to be sent, being asked to do three cartwheels and somersault in front of my digital camera and then finish with the secret handshake....If Flight One can engineer an instantaneous and fully automated purchase system, why not these two excellent companies?Colin

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er....cos they're stoepid,and flight1 isn't??... nah... that can't be right.....:-sun1 ... i know!!because some businessman tricked them into buying that stuff??.................................nah...cant be right either.......:-sun1 ... i know!! :-jumpy .... but i won't tell .... hehehe

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Dark Moment,Re your problem logging onto FS Gateway - I had a similar problem last month and discovered the kids had been playing with my dates in Windows and the forum's security system won't allow you in if the date /time is wrong by about 15 minutes. My date had ben changed by a year!

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Ho! Interesting! I tried again last night and still can't get it ... c'mon Frank, you said you'd help ... where are you, my friend? When I go to log in, it recognises no previously set up combination that I try ... but when I go to register as a first timer, it still tells me my "passwords don't match". Curious.So what time is it then now, I wonder, on my machine. It says 8:33 on the little button on my task bar and I know it's July 4, LOL .... so here's pressing POST MESSAGE to see what time this message posts!O how boring this all is! Sorry to be such a pedant, folks.Mark "Dark Moment" BeaumontEDIT: Well, the big hand is at the bottom where it should be ... but it's half past eight in the morning here whereas this forum says it's four hours on. As even UK is five hours ahead, maybe Tom Allensworth is a mermaid. This forum must be hosted off the West Coast of Ireland somewhere.http://www.swiremariners.com/newlogo.jpg

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Mark,I AGREE with and totally sympathize your sentiments ... the world is really getting way to complex! My ISP decided to block "SPAM," didn't ask me, and I have no choice ... now my mail "storage" is twice the size because of the "Spam blocker's analysis" of why 98% of my private email is SPAM. Totally amazing to me. and all I can think of is Monty Python ... SPAM, SPAM SPAM, SPAM, etc. At work, I am faced each morning with 100+ eMails which say SPAM ... good to delete and look at some while drinking my morning coffee.I wodk in the great IT biz, have for 25+ years and have seen things that no one dreamed of even 15 years ago happen today for all of us ... but the price is getting higher and higher for my 54 yo tired brain ... all those passwords, and that is just WORK ... not to mention FS and my other interests ... I have to keep a spreadsheet with id's and passwords, because I cannot remember, and everyone seems to have DIFFERENT password rules, so I can't simply have ONE password ... hahahahaha ...O WELL ..Happy 4th of July ... not sure what part of the planet you are from, but here in the US it's a HOLIDAY and DAY OFF ... yahooo!!! Any day off is a GOOD day off!!!

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And the same to you, Paul! I'm a Limey, but I live in Bayville, Long Island, NY ... so the flags are out here, of course. Now I wonder what would happen if I raised my Flag of St. George ....I was talking to an 83-year old flightsim friend of mine yesterday who had the following observation:"Went to your place once. Liverpool, 1943, in between sinking U-boats. Two and a half years at sea in one tour, so Liverpool was a welcome sight. Love the Brits. In fact, then and now, they're the only people in the world who like us Americans, you know. America's OK to them. Probably because they think they still run the place".LOL. Not me; I'm married to a Yank and she's much cleverer than I will ever be.Mark "Dark Moment" Beaumonthttp://www.swiremariners.com/newlogo.jpg

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yahoo...Mark Dark Moment...i must say i'm looking forward to see you as a member of fsgateway....just ignore the aussies...what CAN you expect from someone who is walking upside down lol...:-outtahere before the shells come down-->

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FrankHi. I've pretty well given up, frankly (ho ho ... frankly, ROFL!). No doubt my brain is missing a gasket. I've long given up trying to sign in ... but, prompted by your post above, I've just been there again to start anew and I hit SIGNUP!!! on the menu bar, once more.Up comes a screen with lots of boxes. Three are required. These are EMAIL ADDRESS (mine is AOL, not a freebie) USER NAME (which I fill as Dark Moment) and NEW PASSWORD (which I put something in).Next screen says, yet again:"There Was A Problem With Your DetailsYour Passwords didn't match." The NEW PASSWORD bit is curious. Is it saying that Dark Moment has another? If so, why am I not, as you say, in your database of pending or current members?If you can answer without putting yourself out, fine, thanks. But don't waste time on it; there are other sites, and much as I would like to join you there, this is all rather too laborious! As I said at the top of this thread somewhere, this is only flightsim, not the White House! It's easier to fly from my local airport than it is to get into FSGateway! For me, anyway, but as I said, my brain not always firing on all cylinders. I blame the Sam Adams on my Cornflakes.Mark "Dark Moment" Beaumonthttp://www.swiremariners.com/newlogo.jpg

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OK, I've sorted it. Seems maybe it wasn't the Sam Adams after all. When I called up SIGNUP! from the FSGateway TOP menu bar on the Home Page ... as I have been doing all along through this charade .... it brings up the wrong form, seemingly, as documented above. But when I click on SIGN UP from the LEFT menu listing ... hey presto, a correct form and immediate registration.There, that wasn't so difficult, was it now, Mark? Here, have some more medicine and keep taking your pills ....Mark "Dark Moment" Beaumonthttp://www.swiremariners.com/newlogo.jpg

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