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Has anyone been able to undock panels at all?even better to move them to another monitor, where those monitors run window mode?I will try to uninstall XP SP1 later, has proven to malfunction with fs2002, so I never had the service pack installed before.thought it would be neat to freshen up the system before installing 2004, but now I don't know...I have a geforce4 TI4400 and a SIS PCI cardti4400 runs two monitors, one in full screen and one in window mode.SIS run window modethe undock choice of the panels menu are simply greyed out.I could rant about how I 'm not allowed to ask this question at the other site.....//Leif

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go to windowed mode, then you should be able to undock a 2D panel and transfer it to your second monitor, then go back to 3D mode, see what happens.

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Leif,I have read a similar post over at the other site concerning an ATI Radeon 9800, so this is neither driver nor card specific. Undocking windows seems to work in windowed mode only. MS messed that up big time obviously. That means that FS9 will be practically unusable for my 3 monitor setup. I cannot believe this. I really wonder how MS picked their beta testers. Did they really not have one guy among them with a multi monitor setup?AlexEdited for typos.

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Most serious simmers don't use fullscreen mode anymore I guess.Windowed mode works better for me, gives better performance, and is more convenient.

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Yeah better performance. That is because AF does not work correctly in Full Screen. There is an obvious difference in picture quality. Also in Fullscreen you run the resolution your desktop is set to not the res that is set inside FS. >Most serious simmers...Why would anyone want a blue border around their screen. Sorry but I have not the slightest idea what that has to do with a "serious simmer". I do not know what you imply with this post.Alex

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This can't be true, can it? NO UNDOCKABLE WINDOWS??? Come on, you must be joking!VOlker :]

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well, here's the image to prove it.trying to undock radios in def. 747running full screen.//Leif

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it is possible to undock in windowed mode though.drag to another monitor, go back to full screen, and everythings fine!strange anyway..!flaw or workaround?//Leif

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If this cannot be resolved my already ordered copy of FS9 will be on the shelve catching dust. Including CD#4.Alex

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You mean the undocked window stays where it was? But that would only work when the desktop res is the same as the FS res. Moreover if you try to click any of the panels then doesn't FS jump back to the desktop?Alex

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no it works.FS doesn't jump back.I have the same res. in windows as in full screen FS9, so i don't know about the other issue.I think however that as long as you have put the panel on anoher monitor, i.e. another video card or output, it will stay on that monitor.//Leif

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Well yes, this should work. But the desktop resolution and refresh rate have to be the same as in FS otherwise the panels would move around when switching. Anyway it still is a pain in the ####. I hope MS gets this resolved quickly, if they bother at all.Alex

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I will also not be buying fs2004 till this is resolved ,with 3 monitors in my system its unbeleivable fs2004 would miss the boat on this one.

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Here's what I've found working with my parhelia card and two extra GF-MX powered monitors. I have to put fs9 in windowed mode, on a single screen (not in 3072*768) and only then will the undock be allowed. I can then place the panel on the additional monitors, and put the "out the window" wiew back into the 3072 mode. What I have found is the if you save the flight, it will not replace the panels on those monitors when it starts up. You have to redo it each time. It's a colossal pain in the a$$. I haven't even started to try to ge the 2002 config file edits into fs9....--jeff

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Some "improved support for multiple monitors" :( Blah.Kenneth

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There has got to be a switch somewhere in the fs9 config file that fixes this.I can't beleive MS would do this. No one beta tested with multi monitors? I find this hard to beleive. Didn't MS advertise this as having advanced multi monitor support on their website. Advanced as in "less than what fs2002 has"? Why take a step back, with more and more simmers using multiple monitors it makes no sense.

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This is one of my biggest disappointments with FS2004. I've tried everything and undocking windows in Full Screen mode is just no longer an option.It is possible to switch to windowed mode, undock a window, drag it to the 2nd monitor and then switch back to full screen mode. However, if you then try to do anything like redocking or undocking another window, you lose all the settings and have to do everything all over again. I've finally given up on full screen mode and now just stay in windowed mode. AA doesn't seem to work, but everything else seems to be ok.

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>Also in Fullscreen you run the resolution your desktop is set to not the res that is set inside FS.Strange. I thought it was the other way around. Windowed mode runs on the Windows Desktop Settings and full screen runs on the settings set inside FS.BTW. If you have multiple video cards you can now individually set each and every one of them in FS.If you undock the windows of your choice and move them to your other monitors and after that select full screen mode all monitors will go into full screen mode with the selected windows on each monitor!Regards,

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The issue I have is that if I run in windowed mode, I get horrible stutters with sound - basically the sim does a momentary pause every 1-2 seconds.. Need to look if some settings can fix this.. But it sucks really badly.Tuomas

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Has anyone written MS to ask that the "enhanced multi-monitor support" be fixed in a patch?

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"Most serious simmers don't use fullscreen mode anymore I guess."So what's your agenda! Why would you criticize someone who wants to use Full Screen Mode? How does being a "serious simmer" have anything to do with Full screen mode? What is your definition of a "Serious Simmer"?Please let me know the requirements of being a "Serious Simmer" so that I may disavowal myself of any association with your group.Dennis Waggoner

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>So what's your agenda! Why would you criticize someone who>wants to use Full Screen Mode? How does being a "serious>simmer" have anything to do with Full screen mode? What is>your definition of a "Serious Simmer"?A serious simmer really doesnt want to see some stupid Windows titlebars on the visuals IMHO.. So I guess the definitions can vary..But I get quite a considerable boost in framerates when I run in 1024x768 window mode (maximized of course). I got the sound chopping fixed though, now it just seemed to start working, dunno what the problem was, but if it works, I am not going to touch it :)Tuomas

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IT CAN BE DONE: In an earlier thread this method is described. In full screen mode select the panel, ie. GPS - do NOT use undock just select the panel and move it until one-half of it is off the number one monitor and disappearing into monitor number two. Then turn the panel off. Start it again and it will be in monitor number two ready to resize or ? On the issue of resolution and desktop. Some of you have said that FS9 will only run at the desktop resolution - not true as my desktop is at 800x600 and FS9 is set in the options to 1024x768 and that is what it runs at. The switching is automatic in and out of FS9. Thanks to the person(s) who found this method. I am using Radeon 9700, 128 meg.

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"But I get quite a considerable boost in framerates when I runin 1024x768 window mode (maximized of course). "If you are running 16 bit color on the desktop and 32bit color in flight simulator with you go to windowed mode your color is automatically set to your desktop color resolution that is the only reason you could be getting more performance by running windowed mode.In general MORE resources are available to a program operating in full screen mode that in windowed mode.Dennis Waggoner

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