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speed break doesn't effective

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Hello Bob,First of all, thank you very much for that you edited new version of TM2. Today I found a chance to remove existing TM2 and install new V1.25+V1.26. After completed setups and configurations I made a test flight with Air Atlanta Icelandic Cargo from LTAC - LTBA. (like as everytime, first C172 default then TM2)It was easy flight for a test, I loaded 4500LBSX2 wings and 3000LBS fuel on C1, INS setup for routing. I was lucky, LTAC controller (who was duty in VATSIM) gave me radar vector dept, means no SID and would be dct waypoint aftr T/O. - Everything great as you told us before released. - Maybe overhead panel lighting can be change in newer version (a bit slighted from dark map)- Steering etc was great but a bit sensitive according me. But good point, while making taxiing visibility angle (centered on window) much better older one. ( I think it has been changed becouse in older one, end of wiper on the center line of taxiways)- INS works as well. (actually I remember INS has night lighting but maybe I was wrong)now problems;- still plane is very sensitive while climbing and stab trim goes nose down from +4.9 trim point. I really don't know, only do I living this problem? When tried to A/P ELEV+HOLD ALT, nose felt down to dive with nose down stab position! Before that I checked joystick was on center even as you said that not necessary for A/P engage.-I hold it manuelly around 1800-2600fpm and I made some little trim toouches until reached FL260. For holding FL260 when attempt to ELEV ON, plane did not nose down to hold level, crossed and began down at least 600feet then gets position levelled. How can I set this feature? where did I made mistake? joystick sensitive adjust slide on %5~10 (on the left) so it is not sensitive.-when I get descend order from LTBB_CTR, ELEV OFF+HOLD ALT OFF and started descend. Shortly after reduced throttle IDDLE. Descend rate was 1800~2200 fpm and even I hold IDDLE plane didn't slow down. At 25nm from toucdown, I was 9000ft /290~300KIAS and get order further descend 5000 then 3000ft, I deployed spoilers on FLIGHT DETEND but there wasn't change on airspeed. While approaching 5000ft reduces fpm until 1400fpm and full deployed spoilers. When I check spotview , I saw spoilers were not fully open, they seems flight detend position.I captured ILS around 12nm 4000ft throttle was still IDDLE ( a little bit open for cuts the horn) airspeed was very slowing down while spoilers FULL open. After I did gears down, spoilers effects worked as well and reduced speed until 200KIAS while passing 2 nm from touchdown, deployed flaps as much as I could do , spoilers closed to ARM position , touched down with 170KIAS /25degree flaps. On the ground deployed spoilers and did work as well with MAX BRAKE and plane slow down than I expected. Vacated rwy 36R and went to parking position, I closed to system as checklist.Result; according my flight,speedbreaks did not effect on drag while approaching. In normallyi wen I open spoilers while descending with 2000~2200, nose should be try to up for lift effect, after I pushed and hold the same rate speed should be slow down. (until I release to much nose down command). Probably landing gears have much bette drag effect becouse after landing gears opened plane start to slow down.Maybe it is causing my FS configuration or else, I really don't know but just I wanted to inform you.I'm still waiting SPERRY 177 :) otherwise I will have much more sweats while climbing and descending :)Thanks again Bob.Regards(p.s. sorry for my english!)

hakan"737"guven

Istanbul/Turkey

It sounds to me like a weight and balance problem. How much payload are you loading, and where is the CG? Is the sim set for lbs or kilograms?Also, the fuel loading should be done so that there is no center tank fuel unless the wings are full. A 12000 lb fuel load should be configured as 6000 lbs in each wing and nothing in the center tank.Many FS add-ons simulate unrealistically high amounts of drag with spoilers. In the B732, the spoilers will not extend past the flight detent when in flight, and they are only marginally effective. A heavily-loaded jet descending at over 2000 fpm will not slow down quickly.When climbing and descending with the autpilot engaged, you should have the elevator axis engaged and use the joystick to make inputs to the Sperry 77 attitude hold. If you fly manually, make sure that FSUIPC's "control acceleration fix" is checked or the trim will be hypersensitive.RegardsBob ScottColonel, USAF (ret)ATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VColorado Springs, CO

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Hello Bob,Thank you for your reply. On the latest test flight (LTBA-LTFE) which was 3.rd flight, I took some screenshots for your inspection.I didn't change payloads of the plane, I'm using as that how is like came. Also I didin't change aircraft.cfg except panel.cfg for INS and TCS. all of them are your default settings. (LBS and MB)First opened with default C172, maser bat ON and AVIONICS ON, then selected Air Atlanta Icelandic Cargo.Trip was this time 269nm with 14000LBS fuel(by your advise only wing tanks, empty center) , ZFW(empty) 61.890LBS on set PDCS. (I remember, at the previous TM2 CG point was out of limit to forward, it wasn't in limit bars)Cargo plane loading is the same with PAX versiyon, thatswhy I was afraid to chance section loading.Don't care fuel counts, I took the picture after landing, they are my holding and alternate airport reserve fuel :) but 7000+7000Lbs the same CG point.B737-200-1.jpgB737-200-3.jpgTrim set as default but increase +4.5 for I would need an space nose down command after takeoff. Shortly after takeoff at this time I was to be more carefull on elevator commands and just only use small touches but it didn't work. When joystick (Sidewinder-FFB2) get position pyhsically Center, plane still was on 4000~4500FPM climb even I switch on A/P ELEV.When joystcik center position I'm hearing click sound.I think that is correct position for A/P ELEV ON but when switch ON,, plane excessive climb or down. When I pushed down and set on nose down trim after that I get controlled manuelly sometimes A/P ELEV does work for almost fixing climb rate around 1500~2000 but honestly I really don't know it is causing by me or A/P :)B737-200-4.jpgAnd my FSUIPC settings, I always using your advised sets. But you may check once again is there any problem or not.B737-200-2.jpg

hakan"737"guven

Istanbul/Turkey

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