Hi Guys,I have a quick question regarding a missed approach on FS9 when flying VFR. Yesterday I was flying my VFR flight plan, and as I approached my destination airport, I opened up the ATC window, chose "nearest airport", and selected my destination. I was then cleared for landing straight in.Well, it was very foggy, and I was not lined up properly, so I wanted to declare a missed approach and go around. I went to my ATC window, but there was no option to declare a missed approach, or request a go around. I've seen it with IFR flying, but not with VFR. So, ATC held all traffic until I flew the pattern back, and landed.What am I doing wrong?Thanks in advance,JD

not sure about the sim but in the real world you will not be cleared for any type of approach under and vfr flight plan (or just vfr flight), only cleared to land or cleared to take off. since you are not cleared for an approach, you cannot declare a missed approach (simple, no approach, no miss). IRL, vfr traffic simply state that they are going around.while landing one night into Eugene Oregon, I heard the little vfr Cessna in front of me , after being cleared to land, say just that, 'Eugene tower Cessna 24377(?) missed approach' - followed by the immediate reply 'copy 277, and exactly what approach are you missing?'

So Mike...If you were flying VFR and for whatever reason wish to break off from landing, which you have been cleared for, (landing, not approach) How would you notify the tower of your intentions to go around? I think that was the question that was being asked. However some people mistakenly lump the approach clearance in with the "cleared to land"...

In real life, "Tower, Cessna 12345 is going around."At which point they'd probably say "Roger, enter left traffic, report mid-field downwind" or something like that.In the sim, I think you can "cancel landing intention" and then you need to reselect the airport & call them up again.

Correct. As someone said above: there is no such thing as "approach" in VFR flight, since an approach is actually a "clearance" and you're not able to accept one unless pilot and airplane are instrument rated / equipped, and on an instrument flight.You may here ATIS say "Visual Approach in use, 29 Right". This means nothing to a VFR pilot, all it tells you is that you can expect to land on 29R. If on an instrument flight, the words "visual approach" mean a specific set of rules and procedures, for which you can report "missed".Bruce.

glad we could help you out JD

"there is no such thing as "approach" in VFR flight, since an approach is actually a "clearance" and you're not able to accept one unless pilot and airplane are instrument rated / equipped, and on an instrument flight."If an airliner flying an IFR flight is cleared for a visual approach, then again he will declare "going around", not executing a "missed approach".Stamatis

Technically speaking: he'll go around due to missed approach.

"Technically speaking: he'll go around due to missed approach."When you declare a "missed approach", there is a clearly defined published route with altitude(s) that you should be ready to adhere to, if you do not receive radar vectors to a different routing.When you "go around" while performing a visual approach there is no predefined published routing (although I believe there ae some very rare exceptions), ATC has to provide vectors for you.Stamatis

Just did a little experiment, "filed" a VFR flight plan using the flight planner. Did a little short hop and got a "report go-around" option from ATC. An aircraft that was holding short for take-off was cleared to take-off as soon as I "reported go-around". Then I just "hopped" in a plane took off, selected a near by airport agian after getting clearance to land, I got the "report go-around" option agian. Though It only seems to appear when you are directly lined up with the runway, if you go off course a little the "report go-around" option is replace the "request directions to airport" option. I took the "report go-around" ATC said roger that, and cleared the aircraft holding short for take-off. I recieved no further insructions from ATC, I recieved the options to do a touch-n-go, or cancel landing intentions.But either "filing" a VFR flight plan, or just hopping in an aircraft taking off and requesting to land, I recieved the "report go-around" option. Though agian either way It only appeared when I was heading in the direction of the runway.

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I agree, but that's only part of the whole picture and does not define the difference between GA and MA.Missed approach in an IFR flight is clearly defined by a MAP and a MA-procedure. This does not necessarily depend on the approach clearance received (ie. whether the pilot's cleared for an instrument approach or a visual appr). Meaning the visual approach clearance does not override the necessity to comply with visibility minima at the MAP to continue to land. (Imagine a clearance given for a visual appr. and during final a fog bank appears or it starts snowing thus reducing visibility).This also calls for a missed approach at the MAP, which results in a go around with (usually) fix routing as you said.Confusing enough or am I completely off the track?

"Confusing enough ....?"I'm currently studying for my IR, and part of that study involves a Part141 tutorial on CD's on the written (theory) portion of the IR. Approaches, IAP's and MAP's accupy almost 1/3 of the total course, and it is indeed extremely complicated. It's no surprise that veterans of the airlines with ratings galore will say that the IR is the hardest of all to get (other than the TT requirement of the ATP perhaps). This is very serious stuff.Good thread,Bruce.

>I agree, but that's only part of the whole picture and does>not define the difference between GA and MA.>>Missed approach in an IFR flight is clearly defined by a MAP>and a MA-procedure. This does not necessarily depend on the>approach clearance received (ie. whether the pilot's cleared>for an instrument approach or a visual appr). Meaning the>visual approach clearance does not override the necessity to>comply with visibility minima at the MAP to continue to land.>(Imagine a clearance given for a visual appr. and during final>a fog bank appears or it starts snowing thus reducing>visibility).>This also calls for a missed approach at the MAP, which>results in a go around with (usually) fix routing as you>said.>>Confusing enough or am I completely off the track?That's not quite right. A Visual Approach has NO Missed Approach segment (AIM 5-4-20.e). This is because a visual approach is accepted only if you have the airport or preceding traffic in sight and can maintain VMC. You are therefore assumed to be able to see and land. ATC is no longer responsible for you not hitting the ground, or the other aircraft, so the rules of whatever other IAP at the airport no longer applies. If for whatever reason you are unable to land after acceptance of the Visual Approach, ATC must provide you with specific instructions after you declare a "Go Around" from a visual approach. At an uncontrolled airport, you are to maintain VFR conditions until after contacting ATC and receiving instructions.

Yep. You're right. It's in the FAA's AIM. I was trying to imply though that a Go Around can be the result of a Missed Approach embedded in the MA procedure. Ie. MA is part of the IAP, but go around is a flying manoeuvre.

It is either a Go Around OR a Missed Approach you are declaring, depending on what approach you are flying (Instrument vs Visual). Can't be both. They are not "linked", if you understand what I mean.Stamatis