Yoke and throttle units are getting the "USB device not recognized" message. I have the CH pedals and NP with them.Here is what happened to cause this. My old single core box recognized them just fine for years. I built a new dual core box and cloned my entire C drive from the single core box and installed it on the dual core box. I highly recommend this method to any single core users out there.And now I get this message. As I said, the CH pedals work fine, the X45 works fine as well as another couple USB devices that I use for buttons.With respect to drivers, during the installation of the clone back-up, my software loaded the latest MB drivers and after the machine fired up, I have ungraded EVERY driver on this machine. It was a perfect transfer to the dual core. FS9 works beautifully as any of you that have upgraded already know. In fact, EVERYTHING on the computer works flawlessly with the exception of the CH Yoke and the Throttle.I have plugged straight into the MB and then from the front USB as well. I have moved around all of my USB plugs and tried all ports. XP says there are n drivers installed. Yes, I know that there are no CH drivers and that the USB drivers come with windows, which is also completely up to date.What do you think the chances of both of CH products going bad at the exact same time? Do you reckon there is any hope on recovering these units?All I can think of next is to buy Saitek stuff but there appears to be so much problems with their devices I am inclined to just stay with the old X45, which allows me to at least fly.I have Google'd the CH issue but not much on an answer exists.Advice or suggestions for fixing what I have? I'm not ready to give up on them yet. Thanks,Gary B

For starters, use the free utility USB Deview to manage and diagnose your USB devices, drivers and connections.Cheers, jahman.

OK. LOL It tells me I have two devices that are unknown. Told me absolutely nothing that I didn't already know. Thanks anyway.Anyone else?

Just thought I'd update this for those searching in the future.I plugged the Yoke and throttle into a laptop with XP. Same issue. Not recognized.So at this point I assume both failed at the same time. I'll contact CH and see if they are of any help.GB

For starters, use the free utility USB Deview to manage and diagnose your USB devices, drivers and connections.

OK. LOL It tells me I have two devices that are unknown. Told me absolutely nothing that I didn't already know. Thanks anyway.

Well, did you bother to use USB DeView to reset and reload your drivers? DeView is the swiss-army knife equivalent for USB ports, so if you only got the "device unknown" message and moved on, maybe you didn't use all the tools available? DeView has solved many USB problems for many, you know? "LOL".

Just thought I'd update this for those searching in the future.I plugged the Yoke and throttle into a laptop with XP. Same issue. Not recognized.So at this point I assume both failed at the same time. I'll contact CH and see if they are of any help.GB

A hardware double failure is extremely unlikely and would only be caused by a serious electrical fault that sent excessive voltage to your CH hardware frying the CH chips. (Or a meteorite struck your house, that too would give simultaneous failures of all sorts. :-)Cheers,- jahman.

Uh, didnt you read my reply to you post?????????Yes I tried that program. Its useless. I can do everything in windows that that program does. About the only thing of any value was that it told me how many times I had connected the two items that don't work. LOLOLOL. Useless as it does nothing to help me correct the issue. That is just trivia information.For your information there are NO drivers for the CH pedals, Yoke or Throttle. I'll leave you to Google to learn more about that. I'm not going to educate you in the basics of USB devices in this thread.Look, I'm just reporting the facts. ALL of my USB devices worked and then a week or so 2 of them didn't work on a new machine. They do not work on another machine. CLEARLY, another CH product is working on my new box, as well as several other USB devices. If one device works in the USB port and another doesn't, one can surmise that the device is the issue. Especially if the suspect device is plugged into another known working machine. So the question is exactly what is wrong with those two devices. I was hoping someone might step up and comment on the issue as with all of the CH products out there, surely I am not the only one that has this issue. You want to talk about meteorites, its only ME that has a CH product that isn't recognized???????????????? I find that hard to believe under any theory. So someone must have been through this issue with a CH product.Its looking like they are just shot. I got my monies worth out of them over 5 years. NP. and just maybe someone will also learn from this on a future search.I'll post back the CH reply once I get it. That will close the case. Move on.

Uh, didnt you read my reply to you post?????????

"Uh", I did, and "Uh" I replied.

Yes I tried that program. Its useless. I can do everything in windows that that program does.

Of course you can, if you know how. Many folks don't. Also it gives you a centralized way of managing your USB ports, all of them, in one single window.

About the only thing of any value was that it told me how many times I had connected the two items that don't work. LOLOLOL. Useless as it does nothing to help me correct the issue. That is just trivia information.

DeView doesn't just "tell you", it also lets you "do" things. RTFM!

For your information there are NO drivers for the CH pedals, Yoke or Throttle. I'll leave you to Google to learn more about that. I'm not going to educate you in the basics of USB devices in this thread.

Rude person, every piece of hardware uses a driver. For CH Products, native HID drivers are used. Go and educate yourself.

Look, I'm just reporting the facts. ALL of my USB devices worked and then a week or so 2 of them didn't work on a new machine. They do not work on another machine. CLEARLY, another CH product is working on my new box, as well as several other USB devices. If one device works in the USB port and another doesn't, one can surmise that the device is the issue. Especially if the suspect device is plugged into another known working machine.

Well, if you have so many PCs, why don't you just switch the CH stuff around and isolate whether the fault is with the CH stuff or one of the PCs as a first step, *before* asking for help on this forum?

So the question is exactly what is wrong with those two devices. I was hoping someone might step up and comment on the issue as with all of the CH products out there, surely I am not the only one that has this issue. You want to talk about meteorites, its only ME that has a CH product that isn't recognized???????????????? I find that hard to believe under any theory. So someone must have been through this issue with a CH product.

I see you need CH folk to also help you out with your sense of humour and your manners. Lighten-up, remember you're simming for fun! Get a life!

Its looking like they are just shot. I got my monies worth out of them over 5 years. NP. and just maybe someone will also learn from this on a future search.

As I said, the likelyhood of two pieces of CH gear going bust is extremely rare.

I'll post back the CH reply once I get it. That will close the case. Move on.

Don't bother, I quit following your thread as of now. Good luck!Cheers,- jahman.

"Uh", I did, and "Uh" I replied.Of course you can, if you know how. Many folks don't. Also it gives you a centralized way of managing your USB ports, all of them, in one single window.DeView doesn't just "tell you", it also lets you "do" things. RTFM!Rude person, every piece of hardware uses a driver. For CH Products, native HID drivers are used. Go and educate yourself.Well, if you have so many PCs, why don't you just switch the CH stuff around and isolate whether the fault is with the CH stuff or one of the PCs as a first step, *before* asking for help on this forum? I see you need CH folk to also help you out with your sense of humour and your manners. Lighten-up, remember you're simming for fun! Get a life!As I said, the likelyhood of two pieces of CH gear going bust is extremely rare.Don't bother, I quit following your thread as of now. Good luck!Cheers,- jahman.

ahhh, a forum ######... Move on man. Now if anyone else happens to know a "fix" for a CH product that isn't recognized, please feel free to help me or someone else in the future. Is there a connector that has gone bad? maybe a resister that is blown? How about an easily re-soldered connection somewhere on the board?Or maybe someone has been down this road and the answer is buy a new one? I got good service out of these two and am still getting good service from the CH pedals (8 years I think). Just hate to toss them if something can be repaired without sending off to CH. Not money well invested at this point IMO.

From the CH website:"The Basic Install makes use of the drivers built into Windows and is the quicklest and simplest install." So if you actually did read my first post you would have seen that I addressed the driver question. Pay attention.Dont mislead anyone into thinking that CH has their own drivers for their Yoke, Throttle or Pedals.

ahhh, a forum ######... Move on man.

I'm still amazed to see that boundless crap lives on.Your remark is crummy and you are rude and inconsiderate to someone who was nicely trying to help you.I'm locking this thread and your account for 30 days.