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How do I make the engine sounds softer JUST when I'm outside the plane

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Hi guys,I want to turn down the engine volume JUST when I'm in external view. I like watching the landscape from outside the aircraft, but it's way loud. Yes, this is realistic - it would be louder if you actually were sitting on the roof of the plane than in the cockpit I guess...Just to clatrify, I'm obviously not talking about turning down engine sounds on the sliders.Only idea I had was to find the WAV files for external sound and process them in Audacity to make them softer (as I'm not aware of anything in the cfg that controls this). Am I on the right track? If so, does anyone know which files need to be modded?Thanks!

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Sim Rig: MSI RTX3090 Suprim, an old, partly-melted Intel 9900K @ 5GHz+, Honeycomb Alpha, Thrustmaster TPR Rudder, Warthog HOTAS, Reverb G2, Prosim 737 cockpit. 

Currently flying: MSFS: PMDG 737-700, Fenix A320, Leonardo MD-82, MIlviz C310, Flysimware C414AW, DC Concorde, Carenado C337. Prepar3d v5: PMDG 737/747/777.

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Hi Rob,How are things in Pt. Hedland? I'm not too far away (by Aussie standards) in YPPH.I'm not sure how your suggestion would go - have never ventured that far! However, I have been playing with my sound files recently: trying to eliminate annoying sounds and the all-to-regular growl when changing views from outside to cockpit. As far as your quest to soften the outside engine sound, I make use of my Realtek HD Audio Manager. Don't know what sound card you use, but Realtek allows various sounds, environments, and equalizer to get the best sound for your sim. From memory, there is one option there: Soft. And this gave a noticeable subdued sound in the external view, as well as not drastically altering the sound in the cockpit (I fly the B744, where the cockpit sound needs to be a low hum). As well, one can alter the various equalizer bandwidths to get a more personalised setting.Am sure other cards would have similar options, and probably worth a try, before altering wav files.Regards,Chris David

Hi guys,I want to turn down the engine volume JUST when I'm in external view. I like watching the landscape from outside the aircraft, but it's way loud. Yes, this is realistic - it would be louder if you actually were sitting on the roof of the plane than in the cockpit I guess...Just to clatrify, I'm obviously not talking about turning down engine sounds on the sliders.Only idea I had was to find the WAV files for external sound and process them in Audacity to make them softer (as I'm not aware of anything in the cfg that controls this). Am I on the right track? If so, does anyone know which files need to be modded?Thanks!
You are on the right track. You have to identify correct files (usually have x in the beginning, as for external), then you just have to gain them down, but be careful to do it on all files and also the same gain, otherwise you lose correct sound ratios.And yes, this is the only way.Good luck.
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Thanks both for you replies.In case anyone want to try this - sound files are in simobjects/yourplane/sound.I found 4 with an 'x' in front of them in my plane.Took me less than 5 minutes to change the gain on the 4 files by negative 15 db, backup the original files and overwirte with the new softer sounds.I used a freeware prog for editing - audacity.Will see if it works now... :)

Oz

 xdQCeNi.jpg   puHyX98.jpg

Sim Rig: MSI RTX3090 Suprim, an old, partly-melted Intel 9900K @ 5GHz+, Honeycomb Alpha, Thrustmaster TPR Rudder, Warthog HOTAS, Reverb G2, Prosim 737 cockpit. 

Currently flying: MSFS: PMDG 737-700, Fenix A320, Leonardo MD-82, MIlviz C310, Flysimware C414AW, DC Concorde, Carenado C337. Prepar3d v5: PMDG 737/747/777.

"There are three simple rules for making a smooth landing. Unfortunately, no one knows what they are."

Thanks both for you replies.In case anyone want to try this - sound files are in simobjects/yourplane/sound.I found 4 with an 'x' in front of them in my plane.Took me less than 5 minutes to change the gain on the 4 files by negative 15 db, backup the original files and overwirte with the new softer sounds.I used a freeware prog for editing - audacity.Will see if it works now... :)
You can do it in the sound.cfg for each aircraft, without modifying sounds files themselves.Looks for entries with Viewpoint=2 (these define the sounds in external views) and fiddle around with the vparams= values.For full details, see the SDK (SimObject Container SDK).Rob

Any tips for removing the famous growl of the PMDG sounds after changing views even with your engines off?

You can do it in the sound.cfg for each aircraft, without modifying sounds files themselves.Looks for entries with Viewpoint=2 (these define the sounds in external views) and fiddle around with the vparams= values.For full details, see the SDK (SimObject Container SDK).Rob
That's way too dangerous - you are compromising the relation levels by changing that. And there are way more than one parameter to change.Changing files is going a sure way, since you can back them up easily - and usually every software allows for batch-edit of sound files. Mine does anyway...
That's way too dangerous - you are compromising the relation levels by changing that. And there are way more than one parameter to change.Changing files is going a sure way, since you can back them up easily - and usually every software allows for batch-edit of sound files. Mine does anyway...
Why is editing a sound file easier than editing a text file? (and obviously both need to be backed up before).Cheers,- jahman.
Why is editing a sound file easier than editing a text file? (and obviously both need to be backed up before).Cheers,- jahman.
Oh you have something on me today, right?Because:a ) can't batch change those points in text filesb ) this is why (just some examples) : vparams=0.00,0.00,0.60,8.0, vparams=0.000000,50.000000,0.142857,50.000000,0.285714,50.000000,0.428571,50.000000,0.571429,50.000000,0.714286,50.000000,0.857143,50.000000,1.000000,50.000000Good luck doing it WITHOUT messing up the relations.Dude, I'm not that stupid as I look maybe... as I'm not a sound developer but an audio engineer, and from my point of view, changing those audio file gains is a 30seconds job. But still this seems way easier to me, than messing with sound.cfg.
Any tips for removing the famous growl of the PMDG sounds after changing views even with your engines off?
B747400F..... your (our) problem with the 'growl' is not only with PMDG but also with the default a/c. I don't believe that anyone has come up with an answer, only possible causes. I have put my problem down to importing actual 747 sounds to replace the default (B738) sounds, and I'm not about to revert to the old sounds. I've played around with various sound levels, intensities, background environment, etc. but nothing removes the growl - only softens it, at best.I have however, adjusted this entry (SOUND_LOD=1) (without brackets), under Sound in FSX CFG, and it seems to have helped, at least when switching views prior to takeoff (and I need to switch views at this point, so that I can see where the towmotor/tug is pushing me to). You may have already adjusted this entry in your Cfg file. However, after landing, and thrust set to idle or at taxi speed, the growl still surfaces and I continue to hit the Q key to get rid of the sound. I'm almost training myself not to use the outside view after landing, so that the flight experience is much better.My only thoughts as to why this growl continues to inflict us, is that for some reason FSX is unable to switch from external engine sound to internal sound properly. I say this, because there are times when switching views does not give the growl, but in 90% of occasions, it does surface. I have tried: adjusting sound levels (as mentioned above), placing the environment sound slider to the far left, not using reverse thrust, not using video playback, etc. but without success. Would be interested to learn if anyone else has tried other tweaks that have helped in some way. All the best.Chris David

See if this helps:http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=126942

Oh you have something on me today, right?Because:a ) can't batch change those points in text filesb ) this is why (just some examples) : vparams=0.00,0.00,0.60,8.0, vparams=0.000000,50.000000,0.142857,50.000000,0.285714,50.000000,0.428571,50.000000,0.571429,50.000000,0.714286,50.000000,0.857143,50.000000,1.000000,50.000000Good luck doing it WITHOUT messing up the relations.Dude, I'm not that stupid as I look maybe... as I'm not a sound developer but an audio engineer, and from my point of view, changing those audio file gains is a 30seconds job. But still this seems way easier to me, than messing with sound.cfg.
No need to get testy. It was an honest question. Thanks for the explanation!Cheers,- jahman.

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