I guess I'll just try the Archer II which is supposed to be better done than the C172. It's just a shame that there's now way to try-before-buy. It would be nice if X-Plane had a way to restrict ACFs to just 10-minute demos (which I guess would motivate more ACF designers to release demos like that).+-0Selective QuoteQuoteMultiQuoteReport

Howdy Wilmer,While I wouldn't discourage anyone from buying a payware, there is a freeware Archer III that has a flight model that is hard to beat by anyone here is a link to it.http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?autocom=downloads&showfile=8870This plane does not have a 3D panel 2D only but it is still well worth having, and I believe that someday the plane will have a 3D cockpit. I usually don't download planes that do not have a 3D pit, but I will make an exception with this one.

Hmm, I'll definitely try that one. I've already bought the Carenado Archer, and although it definitely looks impressive, it's definitely buggy in XP10, for example at some point the throttle handle didn't work anymore. I would apply full throttle and that's what it showed on screen, but RPMs didn't go up and I also most definitely did not take off.The only thing I really care about is realistic handling so 2D or 3D cockpit doesn't really matter to me. Let's try that one. Thanks![edit] Hmm, weird, have you tried it in XP 10 yet? The windows look like they're frosted, permanently.. I guess I'll go try XP9 again.

OK Wilmer you didn't read the documentation. If the windows are frosted over, that's because its cold, freezing, soooo, turn on the defroster. :smile:To turn on the defroster click the yoke to get them out of the way, on the right side of the panel are the defroster switches after getting them to the right, be sure and turn on the fan.Try the checklists they are over on the upper left, click the red button. Just for fun, turn off the radio master switch, to see what happens. LOL