FS Gurus please review my pc options

January 8, 201214 yr

I never owned 560ti, but I can't imagine 560ti having the same AI power. In other words cranking up AA and AF can't be the same performance.But I'd gladly have someone prove me wrong. Or if you want we two could test it out - trying to set up a situation with the same settings, since CPU performance is going to be similar.And RAM, I agree, that is why I said there shouldn't be much of performance difference.

January 8, 201214 yr

I never owned 560ti, but I can't imagine 560ti having the same AI power. In other words cranking up AA and AF can't be the same performance.

Absolutely. But for FSX's purposes, the 560ti is affordable and can more than cope with higher AA settings. I have absolutely no jaggies on this 1080p screen and my 560ti, and have found good FPS with dense hi-res clouds.Personally, I've never noticed AF settings affecting FPS. Maybe I should mess around with that?Remember:

Money is tight so I do not want to spend money where I will not necessarily gain any benefit.

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Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver --

January 8, 201214 yr

Absolutely. But for FSX's purposes, the 560ti is affordable and can more than cope with higher AA settings. I have absolutely no jaggies on this 1080p screen and my 560ti, and have found good FPS with dense hi-res clouds.Personally, I've never noticed AF settings affecting FPS. Maybe I should mess around with that?

I don't really know when it comes to 560ti. I know though that years and years back I've been fighting to get smooth aircraft. Check my latest screenshots, you'll see what I mean.I had cheaper cards in the past and I was never able to get that oomph.Now, 580GTX kills, yeah, but can 560ti keep up FPSwise with the 580GTX when you crank up 8xS + 2xSGSS + 16x AF? I somehow don't believe it... but hey, can't prove it.I only know that the card eats everything that I feed it, and yes, it is running high, meaning BP=0, I get the usage up to 90% in some really heavy situations. Even can go up to 100%, this is when I start getting GPU errors, cuz it's can't keep up...(known thing with BP=0) - so, if I'm pushing 580GTX to the limit, what about 560ti, which is weaker?

Edited January 8, 201214 yr by Kosta

January 8, 201214 yr

I don't really know when it comes to 560ti. I know though that years and years back I've been fighting to get smooth aircraft. Check my latest screenshots, you'll see what I mean.I had cheaper cards in the past and I was never able to get that oomph.Now, 580GTX kills, yeah, but can 560ti keep up FPSwise with the 580GTX when you crank up 8xS + 2xSGSS + 16x AF? I somehow don't believe it... but hey, can't prove it.I only know that the card eats everything that I feed it, and yes, it is running high, meaning BP=0, I get the usage up to 90% in some really heavy situations. Even can go up to 100%, this is when I start getting GPU errors, cuz it's can't keep up...(known thing with BP=0) - so, if I'm pushing 580GTX to the limit, what about 560ti, which is weaker?

Even a 580 can't handle 64_v12 with water 2.high and dense cloud coverage close to the sea. I have my hopes on kepler for this.What the 560 can't do, the 580 will not do that much better.

January 8, 201214 yr

Even a 580 can't handle 64_v12 with water 2.high and dense cloud coverage close to the sea. I have my hopes on kepler for this.What the 560 can't do, the 580 will not do that much better.

My point exactly. I can't argue the GTX 560 will keep up with the 580. I can say, however, that for a budget and FSX the 560 ti is A Okay.

Edited January 8, 201214 yr by ZachLW

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Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver --

January 8, 201214 yr

Even a 580 can't handle 64_v12 with water 2.high and dense cloud coverage close to the sea. I have my hopes on kepler for this.What the 560 can't do, the 580 will not do that much better.

Do you have tests with both cards and same settings somewhere? Right now, you are talking apples and oranges... if to compare and decide, numbers are needed. Running FSX through FSXMark11, both cards, same settings, same computer. Then we can say if it's worth or not. This way it's impossible to know. Just saying 580 can't handle 64_v12 has no meaning whatsoever.

January 8, 201214 yr

Even a 580 can't handle 64_v12 with water 2.high and dense cloud coverage close to the sea. I have my hopes on kepler for this.What the 560 can't do, the 580 will not do that much better.

Really? Why not? I have AA_MODE_METHOD_SUPERVCAA_64X_4v12 with my settings all cranked to the right with water back a notch and full clouds with REX and ASX and UTX2 at 100% with complex aircraft while in ORBX PNW with FPS rarely dropping below 25 to 30 and usually enjoy around 35 FPS when locked there in Nvidia Inspector. What's the problem?Kind regards,

Edited January 8, 201214 yr by SpiritFlyer

January 8, 201214 yr

We've turned this OP into a mess. If you can put into numbers the justification (FPS, smoothness, etc) for a $500+ card in FSX for a given person, I'd be interested in seeing it. That was my only point.The OP made it quite clear money is an object. The 580 shouldn't be mentioned to muddy the waters. That's an enthusiast+ card for people who can afford to drop tons of cash on minute AA differences, sparing no expense.Oh. BTW. Word Not Allowed, if you like, we can trade cards to "test the differences". :Idea:

Edited January 8, 201214 yr by ZachLW

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Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver --

January 8, 201214 yr

Fair enough Zack. My only point was to correct a completely false statement that you quoted, not to challenge yours.Kind regards,

Edited January 8, 201214 yr by SpiritFlyer

January 8, 201214 yr

Fair enough Zack. My only point was to correct a completely false statement, quoting it the same way you did.Kind regards,

Quite, me too. 560ti is going to be OK for him. I missed the thing with the tight budget.

Oh. BTW. Word Not Allowed, if you like, we can trade cards to "test the differences". :Idea:

You wouldn't have any use of it He%20He.gif

It's under the watercooler, which, if I read correctly, you can't use! :Tounge:But I'm all for tests if you're up to it!

Edited January 8, 201214 yr by Kosta

January 8, 201214 yr

Oh you guys. The reason I frequent these forums...

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Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver --