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Does anyone have expirence with the CH Pro Pedals? I am thinking about buying a set I found on EBAY (new).

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I have them and they are great and very reliable. The one defect is they have a center detent by design that cannot be removed (not a problem for me, but some folks do mind). Also the pot is fairly easy to replce once it wears out (and they all do eventually).Cheers,- jahman.

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+1 to all of that. I've had mine five years + with absolutely no issues.My one gripe is how close together the pedals are. This fact tends to make precise rudder input a bear, and extended rudder input fatiguing. A few others (mostly pilots) share my sentiments, but they're all around a great product.

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Thanks guys, with all the negative I've read online about the Saitek pedals I just purchased the CH Pedals, they seem to be the longest lasting competitor.

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You're welcome! They are built like a truck, quire literally: If you open the base, you will see each pedal rests on a truck (in the aircraft main carriage sense. a small platform with four wheels running along a set of rails).Cheers,- jahman.

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Had them, they were great. Unfortunately managed to destroy them by connecting them to the USB Hub which had a false power adapter connected to it - thus burning the pedals. This is what I get for having some much stuff here and not being careful what belongs to what.

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Thanks, now I just need a better stick and yoke. I just returned my Saitek X52 Stick & Hotas because it really is a piece of crap. It's sloppy, and the spring has hardly any tension, you can fix this by sliding a shim made out of plastic between the stick and spring but you get a heck of a lot of creep and noise then. I have an old CH Yoke but it's sticky, and the POV switch only half works, I've read some users unhappy with the Saitek yoke as well but seems like you can fix most of it with a warranty voiding Silicon Lube job. Going to run my old Logitech Extreme3DPro for awhile longer(Twist rudder no longer works), because the stick is stiff and feels more like what I'm used to in a real airplane, which is a stick you can easily jam side to side with no resistance, get it right Saitek!!

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Silicon Lube: it's gonna make movement way smoothes yes, but silicon lube on the plastic has one undesired effect (I had Saitek, and tried lots of mods on the yoke) - it gets more sticky when you "park" it, or stop moving.I would like to know how the new Saitek Cessna yoke plays out - I don't believe it's gonna be THAT much better, but if it's better than the old one, it's a step in the right direction.Ball bearing is the only way to remove stickyness completely and only two producing that are VRI (380€ + delivery) and PFC (from USA, about 600€ + delivery). But VRI has no buttons - a no-go for me.As for a joystick: I have only one recommendation - MS FF2. Lovely stick.

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The MS FF2 is an awsome joystick. I've been trying to get my hands on one again for about 2 years (Previous one died), but have yet to been able to find one on Canadian Ebay, it's frustrating when those south of the border will not ship across.

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Bad luck mate. I see couple on Ebay here. But my wishes are for the PFC yoke, or alike. Or Saitek Cessna if it's good enough...

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I have a Piper yoke assembly in my hanger... I wonder if it would be possible to make it work for PC :Money Eyes: . That sucker wouldn't stick. Time to do some reading!

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I have an old CH Yoke but it's sticky, and the POV switch only half works, I've read some users unhappy with the Saitek yoke as well but seems like you can fix most of it with a warranty voiding Silicon Lube job.
Silicon Lube: it's gonna make movement way smoothes yes, but silicon lube on the plastic has one undesired effect (I had Saitek, and tried lots of mods on the yoke) - it gets more sticky when you "park" it, or stop moving.
That's because you folks are using the wrong lube. You need to use Dupont Teflon Silicone lube ($5). The Teflon (as in the plastic of non-stick pans) is what removes the stickiness. Use twice a year.Cheers,- jahman.

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That's because you folks are using the wrong lube. You need to use Dupont Teflon Silicone lube ($5). The Teflon (as in the plastic of non-stick pans) is what removes the stickiness. Use twice a year.Cheers,- jahman.
Could you make a video of your yoke performing on elevator axis used by one hand when deflected?

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Could you make a video of your yoke performing on elevator axis used by one hand when deflected?
Not sure what you mean, but there's still no stickiness (although with only one hand elevator spring tension is a tad OTT at extreme deflection). Routinely hand-fly PMDG B-744 approaches with one hand (the other on the throttles).Teflon makes a difference: Teflon has the third lowest coefficient of friction, after the aluminum-magnesium-boride ceramic and diamond-like carbon.Cheers,- jahman.

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Not sure what you mean,
I mean, a simple video - one hand grip, deflect a bit, just what you would use when landing, let's say half of the full deflection, and move the pitch up and down from the center axe... but slowly, like you would when you flare. Just couple of times back and forth.

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OK, but you'll have to do with a verbal description as I don't have a camera for the video.At even full aileron deflection, there is no elevator sticking in the elevator controller usable range.Elevator useable range is defined as the lesser of:

  1. Elevator Stop-to-Stop range on the aircraft (renders any additional controller deflection useless), and
  2. Elevator Stop-to-Stop range on the yoke potentiometer (renders any additional controller deflection useless), and
  3. Elevator Spring Tension range on the hardware controller (excessive elevator spring tension is worse than stickiness so stickiness becomes a non-issue)

... all this for areasonably worn, recently calibrated and lubricated CH Products Yoke with factory springs installed and with straight line sensitivity curves assigned in FSUIPC.So although you will find some residual stickiness at extreme deflections, in FSX practice those extreme deflections are never reached even during (crabbed) cross-wind landings (although in the RW they would).Also if extreme deflections were required, thanks to FSUIPC it is possible to calibrate any axis with an increasing sensitivity for hardware controller extreme deflections so those extreme deflections need not be reached in practice.The biggest problem with elevator stickiness is of course for level flight, but since applying Dupont Teflon Silicone that problem is gone for good.Finally CH Yokes are limited to 90º stop-to-stop yoke aileron travel (no idea what Saitek's deflection is) and for some this can be a problem, especially when compared to the 180ª degrees available on certain much more expensive metal yokes from other manufacturers.Cheers,- jahman.

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Thanks for the detailed description jahman.
You're welcome Word Not Allowed!Cheers,- jahman.

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I have them and they are great and very reliable. The one defect is they have a center detent by design that cannot be removed (not a problem for me, but some folks do mind). Also the pot is fairly easy to replce once it wears out (and they all do eventually).Cheers,- jahman.
Does anyone have expirence with the CH Pro Pedals? I am thinking about buying a set I found on EBAY (new).
+1 to all of that. I've had mine five years + with absolutely no issues.My one gripe is how close together the pedals are. This fact tends to make precise rudder input a bear, and extended rudder input fatiguing. A few others (mostly pilots) share my sentiments, but they're all around a great product.
I had a CH pedals for a year and they died on me. CH seems decent and I have their throttle but I would go for the Saitek pedals. -- They feel much more realistic and less "plasticy".

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I had a CH pedals for a year and they died on me.
What exactly happened to them?Cheers,- jahman.

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I'm really starting to un-recommend ANY Saitek products - right now only thing I have from them are throttles, and they were bought over Amazon. And now I wanted to send them back due to some problems, and while Amazon replied basically send throttles to us or contact the vendor directly, I decided to contact Saitek directly.Then Saitek forwarded the email to MadCatz, where I await the answer for already a week, wrote two emails already - only automatic answers.I'm starting to hate this company more and more and truly believe that they don't care about their customers AT ALL.

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I've been "flying" CH pedals for over 2 years with no problems. I also have their Throttle Quadrant and Eclipse Yoke...love 'em. I recommend using FSUIPC to set up the axis and calibration.

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My experience with the CH pro pedals has been very dissapointing until now. they have been in the loft for quite a while. Recentley moved from Orbx pnw and retried my photscenery ,Gen x ver 2 now upadated to ver 3, after a few more tweaks additional to those By Bojote got FSX running realy well on my low end computer compared to some of the rigs you guys have. Also installed uk2000 vfr airports and OpenClouds, yes after all that still getting good frame rates. As I mentioned retrieved the pro pedals from the loft and as always started to have problems ctd and hangs ect. got the D-link powered hub out of the store box and tried that again but to no avail. thought of having a go with ch products Control manager, so i installed it yesterday, connected the pedals and yoke stick and clicked on the install file and it went thro the motions of installing and screen came up to click to finish at the same time as the windows found new hardware screen came up, went through 4 installs of hardware/ drivers. rebooted, and fired up fsx. assignment to the mixture and prop levers got a bit mixed up. Well after all that it was worth it the difference its made is unbeliveable, smooth flight controls, no ctd yet and its also got rid of the shimmering of the mast and pylons. It now appears that my xp prov drivers were not up to the job or had been corrupted and been causing problems with the graphics. Have thought for some time usb could affect fsx and a while ago went back from a wireless mouse to a ps2 one. so I would suggest installing the drivers if your having problems, make sure you do a restore point of the reg' (the install also does one) but best to make sure. not got my head all the other things in the control manager but I did calibrate the two controls with the manager. bob

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I'm really starting to un-recommend ANY Saitek products - right now only thing I have from them are throttles, and they were bought over Amazon. And now I wanted to send them back due to some problems, and while Amazon replied basically send throttles to us or contact the vendor directly, I decided to contact Saitek directly.Then Saitek forwarded the email to MadCatz, where I await the answer for already a week, wrote two emails already - only automatic answers.I'm starting to hate this company more and more and truly believe that they don't care about their customers AT ALL.
Going to have to agree with you here. I just returned my Saitek Yoke - that's the second Saitek product I was unsatisfied with within a WEEK - and I'm not normally a fussy person. When the CH Pedals come, I'm sure I'll be happy, I'm positive there is alot more CH Pedals stuck under the desk of flight sim users than Saitek.

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