I promised myself I wouldn`t get involved in any debate on FLIGHT . Everyone has their opinions both positive and negative an IMHO most should be respected . My interpretations of Nicks comments are different to Robs ;) I see only positive comments and some genuine questions about the Future of flight . I have the latest Scenery DLC with the RV-6A and am Beasting myself through the Missions and challenges . At the time of writing I see many advantages over FS9/FSX and many Disadvantages . What the future holds "who knows" but I am comfortable with the start Flight has made . Rob, me old mate , don`t get hung up on the Toy thing . I have a 170mph Superbike which, when I bought it, was the pinnacle of Japanese technical design, performance, and innovation . It`s my Toy , always was and always will be . It makes me giggle whenever I go out on it . This is not a detrimental statement or an attack on H*****s design team , only how I view my bike (Toy) . FSX , with the numerous third party enhancements , is better than FS9, for me . But many thousands of FS9 users disagree and quite rightly ,for them , will not change to FSX . The same will be for FLIGHT , no doubt . I really do not see any negativity towards Flight in nicks post and only see a bigger fan than me at this time. And I like it too. Right I`m off to find a decent river to test the Icons jetskiing abilities because I can :( Peace and Happy days to all

I am not sure how Rob got to that from what I had said.

What I am saying... and my point was... any flight sim model could be considered a toy...

Very definitely my last post on the subject of MS Flight, and probably the last time I dare to offer an opinion!!

Sorry I put you off Nick... I rather like lively debate / sharing opinions, but I try not to take things "personally" that way I don't get to the point of " probably the last time I dare to offer an opinion!!"Because I do value your remarks & opinion despite your perception to the contrary. It's not like I have a corner on the market with "the 'right' opinion".

My interpretations of Nicks comments are different to Robs

I can't read minds Bry... and can only "call 'em as I see 'em" until there is a further explanation.

It`s my Toy , always was and always will be .

Abundantly clear on this usage Bry... same here for certain things for me... the Suzuki 450 I bought in '84 was a toy for me... and you are saying the usage was the same here? Sorry still don't see it that way.

I think this is where our assumptions differ Bro :)The Icon's a toy, I just can't take it seriously .This statement does not , to me, suggest that the Icon is inferior , badly designed , a rubbish aircraft or a "joke" . It merely suggest`s that Nick has had a hoot blasting about , playing around and exploiting it`s assets as a potent watercraft as well as plenty of unsolicited aerial Tomfoolery in his Toy and leaving other aspects of his hobby to the Stearman . I`m sure if Nick got the RV then the stearman may well take a back seat on the more "serious" aspect . But I don`t know this . For him, this is a toy , much like my bike is for me ( it does not replace my car but offers me an opportunity to jump on and play now and then) PMDG spent so much time and money developing IMO the most accurate simulation of a real aircraft, in the NGX737 , to date . All those systems painstakingly reproduced , the flight management , and attention to detail to give us the closest experience yet, as a recreational simmer, to being in the left seat of a proper tubeliner and what does Rolf do with all that technology ? Hand flies it into SABA and records it for us all to watch and giggle . He was not taking the NGX "seriously" at this moment , it was his Toy , and he obviously thoroughly enjoyed every second of it .And so did I :) Same with Klas (DC) a few years ago in the RTWR following me across UTAH in our Extra 300`s . He flew the entire leg INVERTED :) lol . He was not taking it seriously but he sure enjoyed it . What I`m trying to say is because someone does not use it "by the book" ( like we often do .. messing about and enjoying ourselves ) does not mean that they think the plane or product is poor , badly designed , a joke or unnrealistic . "It`s a toy and I can`t take it seriously" is not a negative in my eyes . Thats what I`m trying to say matePs , Rolf and Klas . these examples were meant in the most complimentary terms . And Rob , just trying to explain as I see it , as you asked . All the best Mate Regards Bry I hate writing long posts :)

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