HI all,I'm playing around with the latest alpha of FS Recorder, which makes very nice rendered videos. But I'm having trouble figuring out how to plant a camera right in the middle of the runway so that I can "watch" landings from that perspective. I know how to make a zoomed tower view, but I can't figure out how to move the perspective from the tower to the runway without just putting random guesses into the latitude/longitude fields. Anyone know?Incidentally, I know some people are disappointed that you can't render videos with sound using FS Recorder. One trick is to make a recording using FS Recorder, then use FRAPS to record the recording, and also make a (soundless) rendering .wmv with FS Recorder. That gets me two recordings: better video with FS Recorder, and audio with RAPS. I then extract the audio from the FRAPS recording in Adobe Premiere and use it as a soundtrack for the FS Recorder render.

First backup your Cameras.CFG (The one where the fsx.cfg file is. For Vista/Win7 it's "users\xxxx\appData\roaming\Microsoft\FSX" Where xxxx is your userid/In your cameras.cfg file Facilities Runway definition (Usually in position 009 but if yours is different set to match) with what's below. Basically It switches viewing position from Cockpit looking at runway to Runway looking at exterior aircraft. You access it by right clicking in FSX which will bring up your available viewing options. Select runway and the Airport/runway you want it placed. You can adjust viewig position with the normal Ctrl-shift enter/backspace combos. Note if you use EZDOK disable it when you use this as it will move the viewing position up for some reason.[CameraDefinition.009]Title = Facilities RunwayGuid = {607C4520-CA6F-4135-AE10-8BF28838068F}Description = This is the description of the runway view.Origin = FixedInstancedBased = YesSnapPbhAdjust = SwivelSnapPbhReturn = FalsePanPbhAdjust = SwivelPanPbhReturn = FalseTargetCategory = ContainerTrack = TrackShowAxis = YesAllowZoom = YesInitialZoom = 1.0SmoothZoomTime = 2.0ShowWeather = YesXyzAdjust = TRUETransition = NoShowLensFlare=FALSECategory = RunwayCycleHideRadius = 7ClipMode = SpotCycleHidden=YesHere's a sample of it's use!!

Thanks very much! Just the sort of thing I was looking for. :)I did have some success just with trial-and-error, using FS Recorder's ability to define new views. But it's still not quite the way I want it. So I thank you!So did you just record that video with FRAPS or some such? Might be easier than what I've been doing, which is (1) render video with FS Recorder, (2) do a FRAPS audio recording of the rendered video inside FSX, (3) then try to marry the FRAPS audio with the rendered video -- lotsa work.

I use FS-Recorder for the in game recording (For External views), then GameCam to do the video recording. I find it much more resource friendly both in performance, and disk space then Fraps, but you do lose a little quality, not to bad though, since it compresses the video but it's a good compromise to avoid a slide show!! The previous version (1.4) even ran better but it was only for WinXP which I no longer use!!

Hmm, I tried that setting for that camera, cutting and pasting it into my camera.cfg, but every runway camera moves now. It doesn't matter which runway I choose. I tried switching xyzAdjust to false, but that didn't help. Sometimes the runway cam moves laterally, sometimes up/down, though usually laterally. I simply want a fixed cam on the runway, looking up toward my aircraft as it lands.I don't have EZDOK. My camera.cfg file was the default before this (I did back it up, as you suggested), and Camera Definition 009 was indeed the runway cam.Did I do something wrong? Any advice would be appreciated.It's sorta amazing to me that FSX didn't ship with a simple camera that you plop on a runway.

Hmm, I tried that setting for that camera, cutting and pasting it into my camera.cfg, but every runway camera moves now. It doesn't matter which runway I choose. I tried switching xyzAdjust to false, but that didn't help. Sometimes the runway cam moves laterally, sometimes up/down, though usually laterally. I simply want a fixed cam on the runway, looking up toward my aircraft as it lands.I don't have EZDOK. My camera.cfg file was the default before this (I did back it up, as you suggested), and Camera Definition 009 was indeed the runway cam.Did I do something wrong? Any advice would be appreciated.It's sorta amazing to me that FSX didn't ship with a simple camera that you plop on a runway.

It shouldn' move on it's own, except to rotate to track the users aircraft, as you can see from my video it doesn't for me. try pressing Ctrl-Space. Are you saying when you first select the vew it moves? Or when you go to adjust the view? If the latter that is how it's suppose to work. You control the position with the Cntrl and or Shift - Enter or Backspace combinations. When you reach the position you want Press Ctrl-Space which should lock position the movements are as followsShift-Enter = UPShift-Backspace = DownCtrl-Enter = NorthCtrl-BckSpc = SouthCtrl/Shift-Enter = WestCtrl/Shift-BkSpc =EastCtrl-Space = StopEach press increases speed and you can use multi combinations to vary direction.For example Ctrl-Enter followed by Ctrl/Shift-Enter will turn you North west. It takes a little getting used to but it works. If though the movement is as you select your runway initially, then something else is wrong. Ctrl-Space though should stop it.

Ah OK, I was trying to use Shift-Enter and Shift-Backspace, but I didn't know about CTL-space! That will probably fix it. Off to try now.

That worked, more or less; thanks! It works fine during regular flight mode. But when I try to use it with, say, Instant Replay, the view still insists on sliding all around, and CTL-Space doesn't stop it. I tried using FS Recorder, but the game crashed before I could right-click. I seem to get a lot of crashes using FS Recorder. (I'm running Win7-64, 12G RAM, GTX 580, FSX Gold.)I actually might try restoring the default runway view, because I never understood what it was before, heh. It is tough to make out runways sometimes, and while that may be realistic, it may be that seeing a pixelated runway from a simulator is harder than in real life.Anyway, thanks again!

You say you don't have EZDOK, but do you have any other 3rd party viewing addons? Track-IR maybe, Those may have similar results as EZDOK. If so try turning them off.

Ah, I do have TrackIR. OK, I'll try turning that off. Thanks!

i dont have ezdok, but have airport design editor, and i just created another airport at same location with nothing but the tower view in it and put the tower at desired altitude viewpoint .. i.e. meters above the airport altitude... you can then record from tower view and jump straight into your other tower view and back again etc thus doing a bit of editing on the fly so to speak...