got a problem trying to land. for one the nose tends to bob up and down when getting close to the runway. also i have the power back to near 30% torque but seem to have a big sink rate. i have the trim almost all the way up but can't seem to keep a steady speed and continue to sink. could it maybe be that i'm cutting back to 30% to soon? thanks, william

You're real problem is that the flight model for the default King Air isn't that good. For practice try some ILS approaches at 135-140kias full flaps with as much elevator trim as needed to hold the glideslope. There is a King Air 200 you can download from the library that flies a lot better IMHO.David

The only king air other than the defualt I thought was a payware. I wont buy from the group that put out the b200. If there is another one out there please advise.Also, Lizarado has a web site that offers some upgrades for the King Air and others. I cant recall the site name but if I find I will post it here for you.Take care.Mark.

>>You're real problem is that the flight model for the default>King Air isn't that good. For practice try some ILS approaches>at 135-140kias full flaps with as much elevator trim as needed>to hold the glideslope. There is a King Air 200 you can>download from the library that flies a lot better IMHO.>The flight model might not be the best in the world, but using the reference speeds on the kneeboard for landing weight, I didn't have any problem landing it in two try's..................... so at least it's possible without big problems. Until now, I just havn't flown the King Air for months. L.Adamson

>The only king air other than the defualt I thought was a>payware. I wont buy from the group that put out the b200. If>there is another one out there please advise.>>Also, Lizarado has a web site that offers some upgrades for>the King Air and others. I cant recall the site name but if I>find I will post it here for you.>>Take care.>>Mark.Well, Aeroworx's King Air is really good if you're looking for a payware version.Anyway to the first poster, I didn't recall having much problem landing the default King Air by following the included help files. Check your speed, perhaps you slowed down too much, too early?

thanks for all the replies. i may have been coming into the approach alittle slow. i'll try it again and be sure to be near 135-140. that could be the problem. thanks again. william

>thanks for all the replies. i may have been coming into the>approach alittle slow. i'll try it again and be sure to be>near 135-140. that could be the problem. thanks again. >williamCheck the kneeboard for approach speeds & weight, as you can be a little slower than that if the fuel/passenger load is down. Weight is adjustable in the airplane menu.

The King Air 200 I mentioned is freeware, filename rfds_mvl.zip. And Lizardo's site has lots of good .air and aircraft.cfg files, but I can't find the URL at the moment.David

I forgot to mention, sorry.For an experiment plan a flight say 25 miles or less to an airport you are familure with. For my testing purpose (when trying new planes to see what they can and cannot handle, stol ability and so on), I fly a real short route from mack masa, co into grand junction co. (GJT, Apt Elev 4858. App CRS 112 deg, into runway 11, ILS 110.30, GJT Tower 118.10)Point for all the data is twofold. First I hope it helps, second is this allows me when flying the short route all kinds of options on my approach, from vfr to a full ILS approach. I take off in the oposite direction make about a 90 degree rt hand turn and I am in line to capture the ILS there. This test you as you T/O due to tight buildings and trees at end as you depart (thus short T/O performance), also you will have plenty of runway when you arive.There is a vor about 11 nm off the field, frq = 112.4.Its just a place I enjoy and am familure with. The hop takes say 5-7 mins in a king air 350, to longer and or shorter depending on the plane. If you really want to test a planes landing abilitys land back into mack masa the same direction you took off. The weather here also makes it a good place to test new aircraft.There are a lot more dangerous places to try landing and or taking off. This iis just a familure place for me to test that offers many ways to fly the route, from vfr, ILS, GPS, and DME.Also in the king air on a short flight here or at your favorite place reduce the fuel to about 23-25% and you person and cargo to about two adults and a few hundred pounds of gear. This helpped me really understand the way the plane responds.I hope this helps a bit.Take care.Mark.Oh, if I find Lizrados web page id I will give you a shoot. He is usually on this site alot. The upgrads he had that where for the king air really helpped the plane fly better. As I mentioned he also has upgrades for alot of planes, defualt and add-on.Take it easy.

thanks for the detailed info. those are some good ideas and am planning on doing just that. went to the airport today and got two sectionals, one high altitude and one low and approach charts for the same area. can't wait. i'll post a briefing on the flight. i always like reading about other peoples flights. william

Also try and pick up some sectionals to go with your high and low alt maps. I did the same as you and even ended up with FAA terminal Procedures (got'em from Sportys (no association, LOL).Maybe we can fly online one day. I would enjoy as the questions you had made me scratch the ever growing bald spot up top, LOL.I like the AK, BC and Rocky MNt areas. If you want the Mnt areas in Co, WY and Northern NM the Denver andional would help in thi small area. The small area being from around Steamboat Jackson hole down the "Back Bone of America". I like sectionals to complement plates as well as high and low charts. I know there are some web sites that allow you print plates and a few other. I figure that FS updates ever two years, so I opt to get the hard version's, hey they travel well, LOL.I really enjoy this so called hobby, please let me know if you want to give a multi-player flight a try. I would be happy to give it a go.I will also try and look up a few articles (by link I hope, thus you can click on them) on the the King Air 350. I look at it this way, (after the fix or so called upgrade to the defualt 350) if the 350 was not a defualt aircraft, well, alot of others would love it. This is good, as this is the reason for new ideas. However, go checkout the Beech web site and learn more. The King Air seems to really hual but and still allow (depending on fuel and other weight)allow for some sort field T/0 and landings (in respect to the plane here not the official wording of STOL). Easy folks, LOL. MS, had a great idea with the 350 Super King Air, and when checking the performance ect by the way:(I never knew why the add on's as well as the MS defualt planes never included the simple date like T/0 and landing data as well as the wing lenght and air-speed, and the other things, but thats my problem)I think once you get the update and change from time to time your fuel and weight you will find it a good fly.It is faster than the older kingair 200 and has better avionics (at least in the real world) thus feet per T/0 and feet per landing it seems up there.I am sure the are others better but when I search I do not see it.I heard a Saab was comming but know know more.Also, there may be a kick rear end T-prop with the best of both worlds (the best being STOL and Speed once of the ground), if I hear I will give you a "hello" back.Agian I hope this helpped a little, and who knows someone elsa may read and help us with some of these questions.We all learn "every-day".Take care.Mark.Its a little after 9:00 cst, I will check back after dinner when I can play (as she says) some more.See you around.

hi mark, thanks again for the info, again good stuff here. i got hung up with something so didn't get another chance to fly yesterday. i was thinking about the video end of the sim and wondered what you and anyone else thinks about making incockpit videos of some of our flights and exchanging them. personally i think it would be great. i'll will also checkout the kingair websight, good idea. let me know what you think about the video thing and if you can send one that would be super cool. i haven't done much online flying but might in the future once i get some of this stuff down. talk to you later. william

I just realized that I'm using Lizardo's aircraft.cfg for the King Air, so the other posts will be more relevant than mine. I took it for a flight before replying to your first post and thought it behaved better than I remembered. Just assumed it was my improved flying skills LOL. By the way I got a closeup look at the real thing landing at my local airport yesterday. Really nice!David

LOL, well, just finished some test flights in the king air 350 and i seem to be improving. alot of trial and error but making headway. i was coming in on the approach to slow and used to much flaps. only need the approach setting. that made a difference. i was using full flaps and that sure wasn't working. yea, i like checking out the a/c at the local airport too. william

oh yea, thanks david. william