January 14, 201313 yr I consider replacing my current GTS250 1 G with the following http://www.dustinhome.se/product/5010651174/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-650-oc-2gb-pci-e-vga-dvi-hdmi/ It's budget price but I reason since my current card is so obsolete I might expect significant performance improvement. If I get it would my FSX setup be CPU or GPU limited? Going up in price I found this as interesting http://www.dustinhome.se/product/5010651176/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-660-oc-2gb-pci-e-dvi-hdmi-dp/#intcmp=searchProvider_dacsa How much difference could that make in FSX compared to my first suggestion ? I first ask about FSX but I also have other games and maybe XPlane 10 in mind.
January 14, 201313 yr Here's a good link that will give you some better idea of relative performance, jfri: You need to put your pc's specs into your profile so other members could make a better sense of its capabilities. i7 [email protected] | 32GB RAM | EVGA RTX 3080Ti | Maximus Hero VII | 512GB 860 Pro | 512GB 850 Pro | 256GB 840 Pro | 2TB 860 QVO | 1TB 870 EVO | Seagate 3TB Cloud | EVGA 1000 GQ | Win10 Pro | EK Custom water cooling.
January 15, 201313 yr If the rest of your system is good you should expect a very significant improvement. For example, where you previously got 20 FPS you should now expect at least 30. In my case I went from a 320 to a 680 and saw the performance nearly double and nothing else in the system changed. Arjen Vandervelde
January 15, 201313 yr Author You need to put your pc's specs into your profile so other members could make a better sense of its capabilities. I have done that. Why is it gone? My CPU is AMD Phenom II X4 3.4 GHz (OC 3.8 GHz) 4 Gb RAM PC6400
January 15, 201313 yr Thanks: It probably happened when the upgrade was done. There were two or three days of activity lost. :wink: i7 [email protected] | 32GB RAM | EVGA RTX 3080Ti | Maximus Hero VII | 512GB 860 Pro | 512GB 850 Pro | 256GB 840 Pro | 2TB 860 QVO | 1TB 870 EVO | Seagate 3TB Cloud | EVGA 1000 GQ | Win10 Pro | EK Custom water cooling.
January 21, 201313 yr Author If the rest of your system is good you should expect a very significant improvement. For example, where you previously got 20 FPS you should now expect at least 30. In my case I went from a 320 to a 680 and saw the performance nearly double and nothing else in the system changed. That leads to the question if the rest of my system i good enough ? (My system info to the left)
January 21, 201313 yr Author Here's a good link that will give you some better idea of relative performance, jfri: My current GTS250 is not listed there . Because it's to weak ? Should I consider the GTS450 that is listed as a improved GTS250 ? Also how much difference does a card with 2 G make instead of a 1 G card ? I see a GTX650 with 1 G listed. Note that the budget card I was first thinking of is a GTX650 not GTX650 Ti.
January 21, 201313 yr You will get an increase in the graphics quality, with some small increase in frame rate , jfri: any modern card will give you a similar increase, but you are still limited by a 3.8 gig AMD proc: the biggest increase would come from an Intel i5 or i7 overclocked to 4.5 gig+ - paired with that newer GPU. As long as your existing system is at 3.8 - you will be hampered by LOD, cloud definition and quantity, low water detail, low traffic, low AG, and low complexity, etc.. Don't expect that a GTX560Ti - which is a super card for a mid-range pc at a clock of 4.0 - 4.5 gig, that upping the gpu will be the magic bullet. i7 [email protected] | 32GB RAM | EVGA RTX 3080Ti | Maximus Hero VII | 512GB 860 Pro | 512GB 850 Pro | 256GB 840 Pro | 2TB 860 QVO | 1TB 870 EVO | Seagate 3TB Cloud | EVGA 1000 GQ | Win10 Pro | EK Custom water cooling.
January 21, 201313 yr Author You will get an increase in the graphics quality, with some small increase in frame rate , jfri: any modern card will give you a similar increase, but you are still limited by a 3.8 gig AMD proc: the biggest increase would come from an Intel i5 or i7 overclocked to 4.5 gig+ - paired with that newer GPU. As long as your existing system is at 3.8 - you will be hampered by LOD, cloud definition and quantity, low water detail, low traffic, low AG, and low complexity, etc.. Don't expect that a GTX560Ti - which is a super card for a mid-range pc at a clock of 4.0 - 4.5 gig, that upping the gpu will be the magic bullet. Do you mean that it would be no point for me to get a more powerful card than a GTX650 even though that is rather low on today standard ? Regarding I5,I7 CPU that would mean a cost at least about five times higher than the new budget video card I have in mind
January 21, 201313 yr Many simflyers are running 4.7, 4.8, 4.9 and can just about overload a 580, and, whereas the 560 might be a better match than the old 250, and give you some nicer quality to your graphics - you are not going to see a 50% increase in frame rate. You will not go from 20fps to 30fps, given the identical flight situation. 23, 24, maybe? So - yes - there would be no point for me to get a more powerful card than a GTX650 even though that is rather low on today standard ? - because you have to be able to feed that card. A 3.8 gig AMD proc doesn't perform in the same manner that the Intel i-series does. 3.8 is already a very low-end speed. Much better to save up a few months and get a board, proc gpu, psu and memory - something high-end which will give you three or four years - maybe five - or good service. Even someone here may be selling such a system: this is how I sold my i7-950 system, getting roughly 40% of my money back, and I'm even now slowly considering moving to the newer generation components. i7 [email protected] | 32GB RAM | EVGA RTX 3080Ti | Maximus Hero VII | 512GB 860 Pro | 512GB 850 Pro | 256GB 840 Pro | 2TB 860 QVO | 1TB 870 EVO | Seagate 3TB Cloud | EVGA 1000 GQ | Win10 Pro | EK Custom water cooling.
January 21, 201313 yr Author Much better to save up a few months and get a board, proc gpu, psu and memory - something high-end Also I would need a new Windows license and I suspect also CPU cooler. For practical reason we are talking about a completely new computer. BTW don't you think my current Corsair HX520W will be enough ? Otherwise what do you think about this http://www.dustinhome.se/product/5010641364/dustin-uppgraderingspaket-intel-i5-3570k-s-1155/#intcmp=searchProvider_dacsa
January 22, 201313 yr Well - yes I think the 3570K, board and memory deal looks pretty good, jfri, the money works out as $546 Can., and that power supply should be adequate, and having modular cables is a bonus! Why would you need a new Windows license? Are you thinking of keeping the old pc? i7 [email protected] | 32GB RAM | EVGA RTX 3080Ti | Maximus Hero VII | 512GB 860 Pro | 512GB 850 Pro | 256GB 840 Pro | 2TB 860 QVO | 1TB 870 EVO | Seagate 3TB Cloud | EVGA 1000 GQ | Win10 Pro | EK Custom water cooling.
January 22, 201313 yr Author Well - yes I think the 3570K, board and memory deal looks pretty good, jfri, the money works out as $546 Can., and that power supply should be adequate, and having modular cables is a bonus! Why would you need a new Windows license? Are you thinking of keeping the old pc? I need a new Windows license since my current Win 7 is an OEM license
January 26, 201313 yr Author I consider replacing my current GTS250 1 G with the following http://www.dustinhom...e-vga-dvi-hdmi/ Might mention that I did buy that video card and have made some initial tests with FSX and other games. Clearly there are an improvement in performance but to quantify the increase in fps is difficult since I don't have or had stable fps. For other games the increase in fps is much greater and more evident in addition to now having DX11 which gives better visuals. It is possible that XPlaneX has gained more performance than FSX but I'm not sure. My first subjective impression from the XPlaneX demo (64 bit).
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