July 24, 201312 yr Can anyone recommend a SID for departing LPPT and a STAR for LEMD. Trying to decipher the options in Spanish is beyond this newbies skillset. I also see runways at LEMD mentioned online that I cannot find on maps.google.com. (32r for example) I see 33 I would like to shoot an ILS approach to 33R I am planning on flying this tonight in my NGX Thanks for any assistance. Routefinder shows PPT (0.0nm) -SID-> BUSEN (42.9nm) -UN870-> LUTAK (297.6nm) -DCT-> DEMOS (692.1nm) -UN741-> STG (765.1nm) -UN733-> FORNO (815.1nm) -UN733-> FINAM (820.0nm) -UN733-> BARKO (843.8nm) -UN733-> GASBA (870.7nm) -UN733-> ZMR (914.7nm) -STAR-> LEMD (1028.3nm) Details: ID FREQ TRK DIST Coords Name/RemarksLPPT 0 0 N38°46'27.02" W009°08'02.51" LISBOABUSEN 253 43 N38°32'41.98" W010°00'00.00" BUSENLUTAK 252 255 N37°00'00.00" W015°00'00.00" LUTAKDEMOS 42 394 N41°55'32.50" W009°21'43.20" DEMOSSTG 116.4 36 73 N42°55'36.70" W008°25'31.40" SANTIAGOFORNO 125 50 N42°28'05.20" W007°28'53.30" FORNOFINAM 125 5 N42°25'19.80" W007°23'18.90" FINAMBARKO 125 24 N42°12'02.20" W006°56'40.60" BARKOGASBA 125 27 N41°56'52.20" W006°26'45.40" GASBAZMR 117.1 126 44 N41°31'48.70" W005°38'22.90" ZAMORALEMD 124 114 N40°28'20.00" W003°33'39.00" MADRID/BARAJAS Jon Watson https://www.twitch.tv/jonfly https://www.youtube.com/jonflytv
July 24, 201312 yr Author I am trying a demo of EFB From AivlaSoft, unfortunately at cruise altitue I get a stutter using this but I am using it outside of FSX and or P3D to try flight planning.. This is a route I found for the above question... So may not need your help but any thoughts, comments questions are welcome LPPT D059T ALAMA FTM BARDI TLD TOBEK CI33R FI33R LEMD This is using SID FTM9N and STAR BAR1DC I really hope I can solve the stutter issue I have with this EFB program as it is really cool! Jon Watson https://www.twitch.tv/jonfly https://www.youtube.com/jonflytv
July 24, 201312 yr Author okay here is an even better flight plan... see attached pic Jon Watson https://www.twitch.tv/jonfly https://www.youtube.com/jonflytv
August 8, 201312 yr Can anyone recommend a SID for departing LPPT and a STAR for LEMD. Trying to decipher the options in Spanish is beyond this newbies skillset. I also see runways at LEMD mentioned online that I cannot find on maps.google.com. (32r for example) I see 33 I would like to shoot an ILS approach to 33R I am planning on flying this tonight in my NGX Thanks for any assistance. Routefinder shows PPT (0.0nm) -SID-> BUSEN (42.9nm) -UN870-> LUTAK (297.6nm) -DCT-> DEMOS (692.1nm) -UN741-> STG (765.1nm) -UN733-> FORNO (815.1nm) -UN733-> FINAM (820.0nm) -UN733-> BARKO (843.8nm) -UN733-> GASBA (870.7nm) -UN733-> ZMR (914.7nm) -STAR-> LEMD (1028.3nm) Details: ID FREQ TRK DIST Coords Name/Remarks LPPT 0 0 N38°46'27.02" W009°08'02.51" LISBOA BUSEN 253 43 N38°32'41.98" W010°00'00.00" BUSEN LUTAK 252 255 N37°00'00.00" W015°00'00.00" LUTAK DEMOS 42 394 N41°55'32.50" W009°21'43.20" DEMOS STG 116.4 36 73 N42°55'36.70" W008°25'31.40" SANTIAGO FORNO 125 50 N42°28'05.20" W007°28'53.30" FORNO FINAM 125 5 N42°25'19.80" W007°23'18.90" FINAM BARKO 125 24 N42°12'02.20" W006°56'40.60" BARKO GASBA 125 27 N41°56'52.20" W006°26'45.40" GASBA ZMR 117.1 126 44 N41°31'48.70" W005°38'22.90" ZAMORA LEMD 124 114 N40°28'20.00" W003°33'39.00" MADRID/BARAJAS Hi Jon, Sorry for a rather belated response. Unfortunately rfinder isn't the best resource for finding routes, especially in Europe which are bound by many restrictions which are noted in countries AIP's/Airway Manuals. After a quick search, and a confirmation through the CFMU Route validator, this is the correct route for your flight; IDBID DCT PORLI DCT OGERO UZ409 TODNO Regarding the SID/STAR, it is going to depend on what runway you are departing and arriving on. While the departure/arrival waypoint (or gate) will be the same (so IDBID and TODNO), the number/letter proceeding it will be different. However for education purposes, I am going to assume that Runway 03 is in use for departures at Lisbon (LPPT) and 32R for arrivals into Madrid (LEMD). Therefore after consulting our charts (you can do so via AivlaSoft EFB), we can see that for a departure on 03 we would use the IDBID2N (as our first point on our route is IDBID). For the arrival (STAR), we would fly the TODNO1C arrival (as our last point is TODNO). Some useful resources when flying in Europe and to find routes are; Vatroute: http://www.vatroute.net CFMU Route Validator: http://validation.eurofpl.eu/ If you use those two tools correctly, mainly for Europe flying, you will always have a correct route, going along airways in the correct way and altitude, aswell as a route which links up with current SIDS/STARS. I hope this helped you out, and if you have any questions post them here! Regards,James White Aerosoft (Airbus X Extended/Twin Otter Extended/PFPX) & Majestic Q400 Beta Team
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