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Fs2004 planes in FS2002

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Hi there!I need some help.I am still using FS2002 (on a 2600mHz AMD, 512 RAM 128mb GeForce 4)Now sometimes i load down planes intended for fs2k4 cos they have better looks and some other planes arent even available for 2k2.they work perfectly well! now i know when using 2k4 planes in 2k2 und vice versa the flight dynamics are far from realistic!But now i came across a plane which i really had to have, the PC-12 by afg.Heres the problem now: it doesnt show any visual model! you can load it, fly it, but apart from the 2d panel you wont see a thing! Why is that? finally some special programming only for 2k4, is it my grapicscard? (GeForce MX 440, 128MB) If you can change that, how?Thanks for your help!!regards, mattPS:i ve got the demo of FSRepaint by Abacus. there the plane is visible!

The FS2002 model generator cannot read the FS2004 model format.W. Sieffert

Bill Sieffert

HI!Well thats what i thought as well...but then I still wonder why the majority of 2k4 planes does work... maybe theyre still modelled in 2k2 format and only the flight dynamics are 2k4. yet they do look different from the normal 2k2 planes, theyre much smoother and more reflective...So what, then its not my fault they dont work...Thanks for your reply!Mathias

The majority of FS9 aircraft have been compied using the FS2002 mdl complier. Thus allowing it to be backwards compatable with FS2002. The ones like the AFG PC-12 are compiled with the FS9 complier. Making it a FS9 only aircraft. The main reason this is done is FS9 complier allows for "FS9 only" features to be added to the aircraft. A lot of developers are also moving to the FS9 support only as well. :-outtahttp://publish.hometown.aol.com/p3superb/i...s/sign_name.jpgThere is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness".- unknown"My daddy gives me up, to fight for you"- a US Military Members Child

Mathias,Reread what I wrote. You indicated you could fly the aircraft but could NOT see the aircraft from an outside view. The visual model (*.mdl) file is compiled differently for FS2004 than FOR FS2002, so you cannot see the visual model. You might not be able to see the Virtual Cockpit either.The rest of the aircraft uses the aircraft.cfg and *.air files for aerodynamics. These are very similiar between the two flight simulators. The panel are very similiar or identical between the two flight simulators.As indicated in P3_SUPER_BEE's post, many uploads are being done with the FS2002 compiler vice the FS2004 compiler, so that, the aircraft can be used by both flight simulators. The drawback is new and improved areas in aircraft design aren't available with the FS2002 compiler.W. Sieffert

Bill Sieffert

A good example of an aircraft that benefits from FS2004 compilation is the SGA DC-9/MD-8x/MD-9x release. The wings flex based in repsonse to G-Forces on the aircraft. It's incredibly realistic...I have suggested to authors that they compile FS2002 versions minus these nuances, but I have to say a flight in FS2004 watching such tricks makes FS2002 seem very old.....Great job SGA btw on the release!-John

well thx to all of you!Looks like i

You know, getting a new system was my plan too.. But I found if I worked just to get the visuals in FS2004 to match or slightly exceed those in FS2002, performance was exactly the same--albeit slightly improved now with the 9.1 patch. If you glance over at the screenshots forum and look at my latest post w/the MD-8x, I was getting 25-27 fps with those shots. I had turned on the fps counter because I was stunned at how smooth fps were with the new SGA aircraft.There's a lot of user updates--Chris's clouds, reduced hit autogen textures, and so on, that have also made FS2004 run very well on my system. I only fly FS2002 (ironically) now for those older FSDS 1.x aircraft which don't work in FS2004 so well...I've attached my specs, so you can see it ain't no Cray I'm a-usin' :)

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>The majority of FS9 aircraft have been compied using the>FS2002 mdl complier. Thus allowing it to be backwards>compatable with FS2002. The ones like the AFG PC-12 are>compiled with the FS9 complier. Making it a FS9 only aircraft.> The main reason this is done is FS9 complier allows for "FS9>only" features to be added to the aircraft. A lot of>developers are also moving to the FS9 support only as well. Actually, any a/c compiled with the new MakeMDL.exe can work perfectly well in FS2002, provided there's no embedded XML code.That's the deal breaker for FS9 model files in FS2k2. Absent the XML code though, the compiled .mdl is identical to the version compiled with the "old" MakeMDL.exe.We have made the decision to no longer support FS2k2 with our ESDG models.

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