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Angelo Cosma

PDC Route request (SimBrief / PFPX)

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I originally posted this in the FSX forum but I figured it would get more exposure here since what I am talking about is pretty much exclusive to the 777 right now and the PDC / Route request feature is unique to very few aircraft at the moment.

 

"Hey guys, with using SimBrief or PFPX when creating a flight plan and loading it in the 777 flightplan and wx folders, when requesting it through the CDU I am noticing something.

 

The route loads fine and PERF inti etc. However I am noticing that the DEP rwy is not being inserted into the FMC, no flight number, most ALT restriction on the STAR are not present and I have to reselct the SID and or the STAR to get the correct speeds and constraints installed. 

 

I thought this was supposed to happen by default? Am I missing something?"

 

Thanks for the help guys.

 

Angelo


Angelo Cosma
PPL ASEL / IFR
Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) 

Field Service Representative (SEA) ZSE ARTCC

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I thought this was supposed to happen by default? Am I missing something?

 

The route request isn't supposed to pull in SID/STARs, and if SID/STARs are in there as part of the route string, then it won't treat the altitudes as coded altitudes as if they were selected via SID/STARs.  Export the core route.  Use route request.  Add the SID/STAR.  The reason for this is to avoid conflicts when navdata updates, along with a couple others that I can't remember at the moment.

 

ATC can change the runway at any time.  There's no sense in throwing a runway into a route that early.  Runways are assigned when the plane taxis; not as early as when the dispatcher creates the route.

 

Runway assignments (along with SIDs, and potentially STARs as well) in PFPX are advisory only.


Kyle Rodgers

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Okay that makes sense. So for shorter flight KPHX KDEN or KLAX KLAS where the SID connects to the STAR is it even worth requesting, since I will have to enter the SID/STAR manually anyways?


Angelo Cosma
PPL ASEL / IFR
Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) 

Field Service Representative (SEA) ZSE ARTCC

Intel i7 6700K 4.8Ghz / ASUS ROG Maximus Hero VIII / 16GB DDR4 3200Mhz Ram / EVGA 1080Ti FTW3/ Corsair H110i GTX EVGA 850 Watt Gold / Samsung 850 500gb SSD

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So for shorter flight KPHX KDEN or KLAX KLAS where the SID connects to the STAR is it even worth requesting, since I will have to enter the SID/STAR manually anyways?

 

Correct - not worth it.  For the flight plan, enter the departure and arrival airports, and the transition point between the SID and STAR, EXEC.  Add the SID/STAR on DEP/ARR.

 

That whole pilot-executed work flow would probably take the same amount of time as the whole ROUTE REQ for a route that short.


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