July 27, 200520 yr Is there any way to prevent FS from resetting the flight immediately after a crash?As far as I'm concerned, if I crash, that's it, flight over! I don't want to reload the #### thing (and it takes ages with VFR scenery).I could avoid this if I turned crash detection off, but I don't want to do that, since I'd never know if a hard landing would really have been a crash instead.More to the point, after a crash I'd like to be able to watch a replay to see exactly what I did wrong.Is there any way of altering this, or am I stuck with it?Paul
July 27, 200520 yr I don't think there is a way to do something else other than reload if you crash and you have detection on. But you bring up some good points. Replay would be nice as would not having to sit through a reload you don't want. I have detection turned on too but I'm wondering if I should turn it off. I know when I've crashed, and the exact dividing line between a hard landing and a crash dosn't really matter as it's a bad landing either way. So I don't really need it for realism as it's not telling me something I don't already know. If I turn it off I not only avoid the loading time, I now have replay, eliminate building crashes, have menu access, and the option of just continuing on and apologizing to the passengers. Billg
July 28, 200520 yr >I>know when I've crashed, and the exact dividing line between a>hard landing and a crash dosn't really matter as it's a bad>landing either way. So I don't really need it for realism as>it's not telling me something I don't already know.>BillgWell I don't have enough experience to know when a borderline landing would have been a crash or not. What I have noticed is that heavy landings in a light plane have often been okay, even though I thought I was going to wreck the plane, whereas much gentler landings in heavy aircraft have resulted in crashes, to my surprise. So clearly different planes have different tolerances.In fact, I find the dividing line to be a very interesting area, not so much a line as a zone. At first I thought that you either crashed or you didn't, but as my landings improved I discovered that it was possible to break the undercarriage yet still survive the landing. Okay, so that's still a bad landing, but it's nice to know that I could walk away from it rather than end up in a wooden box.In particular I've had a few dodgy landings with the Gloster Meteor where I've broken one of the wheel struts. I once swerved off the runway as a result of this, careered through the fence and ended up in an adjacent field staring at some sheep. Not a good landing but definitely interesting. A friend of mine used to work on Meteors and said this was realistic, he's seen it happen himself.On another occasion I landed a Tupolev 114 at Heathrow, a very smooth landing, one of my best. But afterwards I couldn't figure out why I couldn't steer the plane. When I switched to spot view I discovered that I'd forgotten to lower the gear! Yet it was such a smooth belly landing that I didn't notice. How would I have known whether that would have been a crash or not without crash detect (maximum realism) enabled?The new FS Passengers demo gives even more interesting information regarding crashes. Not only does it tell you the cause of the crash, it even calculates survivors, so it's possible to totally wreck the plane yet still have people walk away from it.Not that I like crashing, but I'm still quite inexperienced so it tends to happen now and again. :-)Paul
July 28, 200520 yr If you don't want the sim to reset what would you want it to do - show your aircraft as a burning hulk? Show it plowing through a skyscraper?IIRC FS00 and earlier showed aircraft plowing into and partially through skyscrapers, modified in later versions for obvious political reasons.
July 28, 200520 yr >If you don't want the sim to reset what would you want it to>do - show your aircraft as a burning hulk? Show it plowing>through a skyscraper?...How about if it pauses and then gives you a menu with options for reset flight, replay video, or end flight??
July 28, 200520 yr >How about if it pauses and then gives you a menu with options>for reset flight, replay video, or end flight??Exactly what I was going to say, but with a fourth option - ignore crash and continuePaul
December 21, 200817 yr I also think that automatic resetting the flight immediately after a crash is one of the most annoying and dumb things in MSFS. This prevent the best employment of instant replay: to see your errors and learn from them. Especially in landings. So it would be nice if someone figure how to disable automatic resetting by changing some setting in configuration files. It would be nice even if the only way is in the form of a patch of the executable. Anyone ?
December 21, 200817 yr I also think that automatic resetting the flight immediately after a crash is one of the most annoying and dumb things in MSFS. This prevent the best employment of instant replay: to see your errors and learn from them. Especially in landings. So it would be nice if someone figure how to disable automatic resetting by changing some setting in configuration files. It would be nice even if the only way is in the form of a patch of the executable. Anyone ?Full version of FSUIPC 4 offers that feature...FSUIPC
December 22, 200817 yr I also think that automatic resetting the flight immediately after a crash is one of the most annoying and dumb things in MSFS. This prevent the best employment of instant replay: to see your errors and learn from them. Especially in landings. So it would be nice if someone figure how to disable automatic resetting by changing some setting in configuration files. It would be nice even if the only way is in the form of a patch of the executable. Anyone ?I think it would be nice if we had the option to reset the flight to a point in selected point in time prior to the crash, ie: 1, 2, or 5 minutes prior to the crash Martin Sims: MSFS 2020, MSFS 2024 and X-plane 11 Home Airport: CYCW - Chilliwack, BC Canada i5 13600KF 32GB DDR4 3600 RAM, RTX3080TI Meta Quest 3
December 22, 200817 yr Full version of FSUIPC 4 offers that feature...FSUIPC I believe the FSUIPC feature pauses the sim *after* it resets the flight. Still a useful feature, though.Another plus for FSUIPC, it allows you to set it up to autosave every few seconds (you chose the frequency between saves) so if you crash you will have a saved file from a few seconds earlier that you can load up.
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