turnandbank

Have you tried starting it from the Xbox App? Mine suddenly stopped starting from the desktop shortcut, but loads fine from the Xbox app.

Yes it is down for me

I had this happen once in 2020 a couple of days ago, but it has been fine since (knock on wood).

I've been testing BATC on and off since purchasing it three months ago, but I too am becoming skeptical about the pace of improvements. After a six-week break, I revisited it with my usual KSEA-CYVR test flight in the PMDG 737, only to find things had worsened. This time, I received a vector toward YVR after passing PAE, and was told to expect vectors for ILS 8L. I had to request descent myself which was still a long time coming and then, all at once, to 3000 feet (the altitude for intercepting the glideslope). Rather than receiving the expected turn downwind after YVR, I was left on a 310 heading until far north of the airport and dangerously close to the mountains north of Scechelt before finally being turned west. I was then vectored straight toward an oncoming aircraft at the same altitude, triggering a TCAS alert and near midair — but BATC gave no traffic advisory. I was then told to contact the tower when established, but had yet to receive a vector inbound (still heading away from the airport at this point) forcing me to self-vector. There was absolutely nothing realistic about the guidance I received during the descent and approach portion of this flight. Previous flights at least followed a somewhat reasonable pattern, although I was consistently vectored to intercept the localizer too far out to capture the signal, so still had to self-vector at the end. The BATC traffic behaved well with minimal inpact on my overall performance, but the AI aircraft themselves are stuttery even at taxi speeds, which I do not experience with FSLTL alone. If I have to ignore ATC to complete a flight, there's little point in using BATC. Despite its flaws, the default ATC with FSLTL still gets me through the entire flight and provides traffic advisories. Given the early marketing videos and their sarcastic portrayal of the default ATC, I am disappointed with BATC's progress so far, but yes, it was clearly sold as early access.

I think Dynamic LOD is just a fork or expansion of the AutoFPS app with additional options including adjusting the LOD and the OLD based on altitude AGL in addition to when your FPS target is not being met. You would only want to use one or the other, not both. I have had the best experience using DynamicLOD and lowering the LOD at lower altitudes. I find most stutters happen on the ground while taxing and while approaching to land or the initial climbout after departure. For this reason, I am quite aggressive, reducing the LOD all the way to 10 at ground level and increasing it in increments of 10 every 500 feet agl up to LOD 100 when flying airliners and LOD 150 for GA. I do not use the app to change the LOD based on maintaininng FPS as I find this seems to cause more stutters than it helps and the LOD becomes inconsistent. The low LODs are hardly noticeable at the lower altitudes, so this works well for me. I probably wouldn't need it at all if I was flying in 2D, but my system is pretty maxed flying in VR with some FSLTL traffic as well.

As a new BATC user, I share the OP's concern about managing expectations for this early access product. While preview videos and YouTube content suggest a more polished experience, the reality is somewhat different. The traffic system shows promise, but it does come with a noticeable performance impact, especially for VR users like myself who are already pushing hardware limits. I've been using BATC with automated responses only and have encountered several issues: 1. Runway conflicts: Aircraft landing on occupied runways where another plane has been instructed to line up and wait. 2. Departure delays: Getting stuck waiting for takeoff when the lead aircraft stops receiving instructions, with no option to request clearance. 3. Approach vectors: Consistently receiving approach vectors that place aircraft beyond localizer range, requiring self vectoring to intercept, otherwise I overshoot the approach path with no further instructions from ATC. 4. VR compatibility: Experiencing fatal crashes when switching out of VR mode since the latest update. Given these challenges, I've decided to shelve BATC temporarily to allow for further development and refinement. Regarding alternatives, I've tested the free trial of SI. While it offers an immersive experience, the lack of AI traffic and the ongoing subscription cost make it a less appealing option for me at this time. I'm optimistic about BATC's potential but it does need more time to mature which is fair since it is clearly sold as early access. I look forward to revisiting it in the future when some of these issues have been addressed.

Fantastic shots, but shouldn't you have posted these in the 'Real Aviation Photos' forum 😉?

Switching out of VR causes a fatal error in Beyond ATC for me since the last update too.

Your system should be able to handle clouds just fine although you don't say what your display resolution is. If you have clouds set to Ultra, try dialing them back to high which does improve performance considerably with minimal loss of visual quality. There are no settings for cloud textures as no textures are used to create the volumetric clouds. Personally I have never had significant performance issues due to clouds and weather in MSFS 2020, but they where definitely a performance hog in older sims including P3D and FSX.

Based on his questions I am guessing he hasn't purchased it yet and is contemplating which version to purchase, so he likely can't try them both or he would not have asked the question. Anyway I can't answer it either as I have only tried the basic version for 2 weeks on the $1 Game Pass trial. I did fly the Corvalis then and thought it was quite nice, but would also be interested in other opinions on these two aircraft. I will not be purchasing 2024 outright until more of the 'dust' settles, and then I will have to make a decision on Standard or Premium Deluxe myself.

I tried it briefly, but the sounds work broken for me. It flew ok, but no engine sounds at all.

Yes, copying to the community folder, or even using the 2024 Addons linker to point it to the community folder should work in most cases. I tested some 2020 addon airports and some work with no issues, some have some minor issues and one that simply does not show up in 2024, similar to your experience. I have no idea why it does not show up in 2024, but I can't really complain as it is freeware released way back for 2020.

Good news! Todays patch to 1.1.10.0 has completely resolved this issue for me. Not a single CTD since it updated, so clearly it was something on their end.

Yes, as per my opening post. I do not own GSX and I have yet to install anything into the community folder.

Thanks. I have checked that and it is fine. I can get into fs 2024 without issue late at night. This has been going on for some time now, so the sim does load and I can do multiple flights etc, as long as it is late. Usually I can start to get the sim to load without a CTD sometime between 11pm and midnight my time. Loading times have not been an issue, just the CTDs during "peak hours".