July 5, 20169 yr Today I was flying from Las Vegas to John Wayne (KSNA). I was flying the KAYOH5 as planned and as instructed by ATC. Then I realized this will take through a long loop to VOR SLI before heading to capture the ILS for 20R. There got to be a much shorter way. After crossing over VOR HDF I request vectors to capture the ILS FOR 20R, I get vectors and start heading to capture the localizer. The problem is I never got cleared to descend even after asking twice and I didn't get cleared for the ILS either. I assumed maybe ATC meant I was cleared, so I capture the localizer and start descending. Immediately ATC starts complaining asking me to return to the heading and altitude (8000) I was cleared for. I complied and a while after passing over the localizer I get cleared for the ILS. At this point I am way too high and there is no way I can safely land. Had to declare a missed approach and go around for take two. I guess my question is, what is the correct protocol to request a shortcut to capture the localizer? X-Plane 12 (VR only) - HP Reverb G2 - i5 13600k - ASUS TUF RTX 4090 24GB - ASUS TUF Z790-Plus - Corsair Hydro H115i - Corsair 16GB (2 X 8GB) DDR4 4000 (PC4-32000) C18 1.35V - Samsung 860 EVO SSD 500GB - Windows 11 Pro
July 5, 20169 yr Commercial Member It sounds like you did it right, except for possibly the request for a lower altitude. If you got no response from ATC when requesting a descent to the IF altitude, then it didn't understand you. That said, there may be a bug that did not clear you to a lower altitude when you were given the vectors. To diagnose this I would have to see the trace log. I'll PM you the instructions for sending me the trace log. Dave
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