All I have read most of the rather large thread on radar contactin this forum, but was suprised to not see a comparison between the two products which puzzled me a little. I own VOXATC although have not had enough free time to get immersed. I used an earlier version of rc but it has been so long it would not be fair to comment. Since both of these products reside in the ATC comm category, is safe to say that one would be comparing apples to apples? I would hope there would be others who would like to see a thread on this subject and are thinking about a new comms program but not sure which way to go.RegardsBob

Bob, I am with you, but the thing that I have noted most acutely is that RC4.0 does not have voice activation/interaction. That is the feature I most like about VOXATC. In my opinion RC4.0 likely trumps VOXACT in many other areas, but the voice thing is far to important to me to change back to RC. Hey, if Im wrong and RC4.0 does have it and I simply cannot find the proper information, I'd switch in an instant, but I dont think that's the case.Randy Jura, KPDX

Hi RandyI too prefer the voice interaction. Again I do not know enough about either to attempt to compare the two fairly. Disregarding the fact the VoxATC used voice input and RC4 uses menu selection to communicate, it would seem that the only way to compare the two and level the playing field would be to determine which product can accurately emulate real world ATC. What can one do, that the other cannot, or, when both can emulate the same procedure, how well is that accomplished by both. So many threads here become bias rather than fact based, so it would be nice to leave out the bias and compare the two feature by feature.Bob

You can try FSCOM (www.pointsoftware.de) which offers digitized voices and speech recognition. I haven't much time to try it yet and have seen very few user comments about it, so it's hard to comment wheather it is any good or not.VoxATC was off my harddrive within one day again. I thought the programming and the interface was poorly designed and no AI interaction nowadays just does not cut it anymore.So far, I am very pleased with RCv4.(Edit for link correction)Pat

I cannot comment on another developers program, however I use RC in conjuction with SHOOT. This combination has allowed me to use voice recognition using commands such as "you have control" at which time SHOOT then sends the appropriate command to RC,RC reads back the command and implements it.Most of the RC menu items can then be voice activated,the only difficulties being for example:Where a change of altitude is requested and RC offers choices based on a list starting at your current filed altitude at which stage you can voice activate RC using the menu line of your opted altitude eg: 1,2 3 etcHope this helpsBest WishesAshley Sear(G4MGD-Licensed since 1981)http://www.jdtllc.com/images/rcv4bannerbeta.jpg

Hi PatSo your biggest gripe was the interface and the digitized xp voices?How would you rate the ATC emulation? How well does the product emulate ATC procedures etc.? If the VOXATC voices were more natural and the interface was improved, would your choice be VoxATC or RC4?ThanksBob

My choice would be definitely with RCv4, because it features a lot more "realistic" ATC options. I haven't taken a real in-depth look at the functionality of VoxATC, but RCv4 also features deviation for weather, holdings based on weather and AI interaction (very important!), which are very important to me.Pat

Hi Randy,I should have spotted this earlier. Your right, RC4 doesn't have voice recognition built in - just as well for me, my wife thinks I'm crazy spending so much time on this machine. If I started actually talking to it ... :-lolI know it's not the same but you might be interested in the ideas in the following threadhttp://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=sho...id=14054&page=3Still menu driven, I know.Would be interested in how the atc side of things compares. I've never used voxatc but know from working with RC just how much time and effort is involved in getting anything to work well in this area!All the best,John

Of a truth, if I had my way, I would use VATSIM, but VATSIM doesnt and probably will never have 24/7 controllers at all stations and until it does I will not subject myself to that frustration. I used the versions of RC prior to the current new release and never even touched most of the program's ATC functions (emergencies and such) and found I actually liked native FS9 speech much better and I liked native FS9's approach patterns, finding the RC approaches very boring. Nonetheless, what attracted me to VOXAtc was simply the ability to voice communicate with it. Granted, it does not have the "features" of RC4.0, but I never use those features, it's kinda overkill for me So, here's a really sensitive question.... how is it that the VOXATC people can implement voice activation and the RC people cant? (it's a rhetorical question really with no answer) so I'll wait until that happens I guess and suffer VOXATC's other percieved inadequacies.Randy Jura, KPDX

in a word, our focus was on ATC. most users were not put off by the menu driven/keyboard method of communication. plus others have adapted voice recognition add-ons to do the "heavy lifting" of voice recognition.we may look at it in a v5 time frame. but then the trade off is, do vfr or VR. it's only a letter one way or the other :-)jd