flt pln out of date?

[PecosPete 6]

Can anyone explain how I can get by this:

Peter Four Four Seven your flight plan seems to be out of date. Please file a new one and call back for clearance.
File your flight plan and try again. Peter Four Four Seven

I've reloaded/refiled but still get this message.

thanks
 

[Dave-Pilot2ATC 870]

You get this if you file a Flight Plan and then make changes to it before you call for clearance or if you get clearance and then call for clearance again without re-Filing the flight plan.

[PecosPete 6]

TKS

will try again with that info in mind

[PecosPete 6]

To clarify:

 Peter Four Four Seven is cleared to Kilo Bravo Kilo Victor as filed Maintain Four Thousand Feet Expect higher clearances Two minutes after departure Departure on One Two Five Point Three Squawk Three Five Three Six; 

Peter Four Four Seven Readback Correct.  Call for IFR Release when number one for departure. 

Peter Four Four Seven Ready for IFR Clearance;  Runway Two Seven;  Kilo Charlie Golf Charlie; 


Peter Four Four Seven your flight plan seems to be out of date. Please file a new one and call back for clearance.
File your flight plan and try again. Peter Four Four Seven

[Dave-Pilot2ATC 870]

Thanks for the clarification.

IFR Release is not the same as IFR Clearance.  Clearance is delivery of the approved flight plan.

Release is what the Tower does behind the scene at a towered airport to work your flight into the IFR traffic flows.  At non-towered airports, you must request Release from Center or Departure control when number one for departure and they will give you a 5-10 minute window to get airborne and check in..

So, when at the runway, you can say

"Peter Four Four Seven Ready for IFR Release;  Runway Two Seven at  Kilo Charlie Golf Charlie". 

Dave

[PecosPete 6]

Dave

Thanks for your help.

I was saying release but the programe was hearing clearance !!

Just tried it a couple of times and finally got the request for "release" to go thru.

Amazing program, but a tough one to get use to,

Thanks again

Peter