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i truly need some help on this .

I have the same problem with online atc(vpilot)

start up fsx than mce it connects and works properly but after a while the speech connection stops. So the copilot keeps listening but I can`t communicate with any more

with vpilot it reconnects after pressing the send button but mce i have to stop and reload gain.

I`m aware its not a mce or vpilot problem but i have no clue how to fix it

in advance thanks

wil

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37 minutes ago, wildeboer said:

i truly need some help on this .

I have the same problem with online atc(vpilot)

start up fsx than mce it connects and works properly but after a while the speech connection stops. So the copilot keeps listening but I can`t communicate with any more

with vpilot it reconnects after pressing the send button but mce i have to stop and reload gain.

I`m aware its not a mce or vpilot problem but i have no clue how to fix it

in advance thanks

wil

A few users have reported this behaviour. Should be sorted in latest package.

Ignore version displayed on webpage. Version is V2.7.2.9

Just download and re-install

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is there a why this happens because i have the same behavior with vpilot.

thx for the quick answer

regards

wil

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18 hours ago, wildeboer said:

is there a why this happens because i have the same behavior with vpilot.

thx for the quick answer

regards

wil

C++ source code is compiled to generate "mce.exe" which then is completely transformed once protection system is applied.

Something went wrong there in one of the previous releases.

And the issue I assumed was related to FO taking many orders before stopping handling them after a while.

Just in case I misunderstood, what do you mean by freeze speech?

If you mean cannot talk to FO at all, it's possible MCE may have switched to DIALOG MODE by accident as a result of VPIlot panel popping-up.

In that mode, MCE suspends all commands for interaction with FO.

Is it the case?

 

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yes that`s what i mean , i can see on the popup in fsx that the copilot is still in listening mode but there is no interaction any more when i use speech  . 

so a sort off pause stand. but other than vpilot i cannot bring it to live other than restart the application.

and vpilot is not popping up because it works on the remote pc.

regards

sorry for the late answer there was a Holiday between .

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18 hours ago, wildeboer said:

yes that`s what i mean , i can see on the popup in fsx that the copilot is still in listening mode but there is no interaction any more when i use speech  . 

so a sort off pause stand. but other than vpilot i cannot bring it to live other than restart the application.

and vpilot is not popping up because it works on the remote pc.

regards

sorry for the late answer there was a Holiday between .

Go to <About> tab in MCE UI panel and check which devices are listed under "Sound In" and "Sound Out".

What MCE version is listed at the bottom?

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21 hours ago, wildeboer said:

version 2.7.29

sound out 4-logitech wireless

sound in   4-logitech wireless

Wireless devices have their own quirks.

For instance they are designed to preserve battery life and may go to sleep when not used for a while (which could be a few minutes only).

At the very least, plug the headset USB transmitter to the back of the PC into its own port and not via a USB hub or the front PC connectors which may not deliver enough power. Check the wireless headset has a healthy battery. Like any rechargeable battery, once it has gone through 400 charge/discharge cycles, it's no longer the same device.

Until at least 3 or 4 other similar reports emerge, in which case we'd have a second take, V2.7.29 is fairly reliable. 

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ok i gonna give it a try with a normal headset .the receiver for the wireless is already plugged in the pc not in a hub i will report back

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2 hours ago, wildeboer said:

ok i gonna give it a try with a normal headset .the receiver for the wireless is already plugged in the pc not in a hub i will report back

Thank you.

Just remember, when switching headsets, the trained speech profile is no longer fit for purpose.

Therefore, go to Windows Control Panel and create a new speech profile, name it after the wired headset. Make it active.

Do not delete the other speech profile in case you go back to the other one.

Train the new speech profile from scratch using our speech trainer.

 

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ok i switch headset made a short flight mjc dash egff-eick.

works properly on startup but halfway the mic when down.

stated up again mce and again just on arrival mic out.

but i gave S.O. the radio control handling and it stil respons on the fsx contoller but not on my voice.

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found this in log virus progam

 

harmfull website http:www.multicrewxp.com/live_tincc.js is bkocked

 

is that in connection with the above mic problem????

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2 hours ago, wildeboer said:

found this in log virus progam

 

harmfull website http:www.multicrewxp.com/live_tincc.js is bkocked

 

is that in connection with the above mic problem????

No, that's a file on website and it's not even ours. It's the hosting site that provides it. It was never flagged in the 7 years the website has been around

But you could be having a paranoid anti-virus that is doing all sorts of subtle blocks here and there.

Suggest you tell your AV to trust "mce.exe" and "Fsx.exe", "prepar3D.exe" for a start.

Just curious, which one are you using?

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ESET Internet Security

the av uses widows firewall and have all the mce applications in the trust mode.

as soon as possible i go and try mce again

 

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did the same mjc dash8 flight 1 hour. 50 min mce working it stops on appr.

its still connected with fsx build in contoller but disconnected from my voice.

i copy config out of C:\Users\wil\AppData\Roaming\Multi Crew Experience

[WINDOW]
Left=182
Top=980
NoActivate=1        //(1 to make sure MCE doesn't take the focus out of the sim, when the UI is clicked, 0 otherwise)
NoSound=0        //(set value 1 if you want to cut the various UI sounds emitted when clicking buttons or MCE minimises)
NoFullScreenDraw=0    //(set to 1, to avoid the occasional graphics artefacts than can happen when MCE UI tries to draw, and the sim is in full screen mode)
StartToTray=0        //(set to 1, and every time MCE starts, the UI will not appear unless you click on the icon in system tray)

[FEATURES]
ExecuteCaptainOrders=1
ReadCheckListWhenAsked=1
PilotSpeaksToAtc=1
CopilotReportsFailures=1
EnableInterfaceVoice=1

[OPTIONS]
Debug=0            //(only set this to 1 when instructd by support)
PilotIsBVI=0        //(must be set to 1 for Blind Visually Impaired Pilots)
UIlanguage=1033
MikeTuneOnStartup=1
EnableOptimizations=1
AutoStartWithFS=0
MinimizeToTray=0
MoreResponsive=1
TrainingCompleted=1
RandomFailures=0
TweakFsConfig=0
AtcMikeUseIvao=0
ForceCopilot=1
AudioIn=Headset Microphone (Sound Blast
AudioOut=Headset (Sound Blaster Tactic(3
PilotName=wil de boer            
ShowCommands=1
ForceCommands=0            //(deprecated. Do not use)
DisplayTime=3000
UseMacros=0            //(must be set to 1 For VoxKey to work)
UseNarrator=0
LoudData=0
EnableAnnouncements=1
UseVoxScripts=1
DisableNagging=1
GroundServicesMode=Native
NoBadLanguage=1
NoFMAcallouts=0            //(set this to 1 if you don't want FO to monitor FMA (Flight Mode Annuciator))
NoEngineStartCallouts=0
AllowActionOnEvent=0
V1CalloutIsGO=0            //(Enable this to follow Lufthansa standard call-out procedures. PNF calls-out Go instead of V one)
ReduceChatter=0            //(Enable this if you want to cutout on the amount of FO speech. FO would be more concise)

[PROFICIENCY]
Level=2

[SPEECH]
Volume=100
CpuUsage=75
SpeechPace=750
InprocReco=1
DisablePitchChange=0
MaxConcurrentTasks=4
NumLockKeyMutesReco=0

[SKILL]
Tol3=030,030,400,900,100,100,100,050
Tol2=020,020,200,700,075,075,075,030
Tol1=010,010,100,500,050,050,050,020
Tol0=005,005,050,300,025,025,025,010

[VOICES]
Voice0 =Clive,0,0,0,1
Voice1 =Trav,0,0,0,1
Voice2 =Stella,0,0,0,1
Voice3 =William,0,0,0,1
Voice4 =Microsoft Anna,0,0,0

[ATC]
Mode=Native
PreventNativeATCCancellation=0
UseRadioNoise=1
StaticNoiseLevel=1
SecondaryNeedAtcWindow=0
atc1=0
atc2=1
atc3=1
atc4=1
atc5=1
UseRadarContact=0
IgnoreRC4Registry=0    //(Set this to 1 when RC4 isn't installed on the same machine as MCE)
RC4path=
IgnorePFERegistry=0    //(Set this to 1 when PFE isn't installed on the same machine as MCE)
PFEpath=
IgnoreFlightPlan=0
FlightPlansPath=


[SIMCONTROL]
FsPanels=1
FsMenus=1
FsDialogs=1
FsKneeboard=1
ViewsAndViewpoint=1

[GAMEPAD]
JoyManID=Saitek Pro Flight Yoke
JoyProdID=Saitek Pro Flight Yoke
JoyButton=1
UseWithVoxATC=0        //(set to 1 if you want to use the same joystick assignment with VoxATC. It will ensure FO doesn't listen to your speech while the joystick button is held down using VoxATC)

[GO-FLIGHT]
Use=1            //(set to 1 for MCE to monitor the manual radio dialling process. Whether you do that via mouse-clicks or by rotating Go-Flight or other hardware modules)
TimeOut=3000        //(sets the amount of time in milliseconds that must elapse after you last click on the radio switches in VC panel, or physically rotate a button on the radio rack, before MCE assumes you are finished with dialling. Values between 2000 and 5000 are accepted)


[CHECKLIST]
NoStateCheck=0        //(when set to 1, co-pilot will just read the checklist aloud, wait for any answer and move on, without challenging you on any item. Useful for people running simpits with hardware switches. It can be difficult for FO to read these)
Strict=1            //(set to 1 if you want FO to be very professional with the checklist. Cuts out the banter)
MJC8Q400 Brussels Airlines G-ECOI=C:\Program Files (x86)\Multi Crew Experience\ChkLists\Bombardier_Q400_check.txt
MJC8Q400_QXE=C:\Program Files (x86)\Multi Crew Experience\ChkLists\Bombardier_Q400_check.txt
MJC8Q400_BEE2=C:\Program Files (x86)\Multi Crew Experience\ChkLists\Bombardier_Q400_check.txt
MJC8Q400 Flybe Purple G-PRPL=C:\Program Files (x86)\Multi Crew Experience\ChkLists\Bombardier_Q400_check.txt
Aircreation582SL red=C:\Program Files (x86)\Multi Crew Experience\ChkLists\Generic_Turbo_check.txt
MJC8Q400_QXE WSU=C:\Program Files (x86)\Multi Crew Experience\ChkLists\Bombardier_Q400_check.txt
Wilco - CRJ 700 house=C:\Program Files (x86)\Multi Crew Experience\ChkLists\Generic_Jet_check.txt
MJC8Q400 Flybe Purple G-JEDU=C:\Program Files (x86)\Multi Crew Experience\ChkLists\Bombardier_Q400_check.txt
MJC8Q400_SAS=C:\Program Files (x86)\Multi Crew Experience\ChkLists\Bombardier_Q400_check.txt
b737N352SW=C:\Program Files (x86)\Multi Crew Experience\ChkLists\IFly_737_NG_check.txt
MJC8Q400 Flybe Purple G-JEDR=C:\Program Files (x86)\Multi Crew Experience\ChkLists\Bombardier_Q400_check.txt

[MECHANIC]
PushWithGSXandAES=1


[RAMP]
NoRampToOfficeTalk=0
NoPaxDoorsAutoHandling=0
NoCargoDoorsAutoHandling=0


[PACE]
ActionDelay=1500     //The simulated delay that takes place before FO takes action. Values from 0 to 4000 milliseconds)
MCPdial=100       //The pace at which FO increments or decrements MCP values from 100 to 250 milliseconds). Doesn't apply to some aircraft where the value is hard coded
ButtonPress=800       //The simulated time in milliseconds it takes the FO to flip a single switch. Values 500 to 2500 are accepted
VoxKeyAction=1000  //The delay in milliseconds between two consecutive VoxKey actions. Valid entries 0 to 4000.


[SPLASH]
NoSound=0

[VATSIM]
NotifyPTTstate=0

[PILOTS]

[MISC]
Path=C:\Program Files (x86)\Multi Crew Experience

[TERMINATE]


 

 

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1 hour ago, wildeboer said:

did the same mjc dash8 flight 1 hour. 50 min mce working it stops on appr.

its still connected with fsx build in contoller but disconnected from my voice.

i copy config out of C:\Users\wil\AppData\Roaming\Multi Crew Experience

[WINDOW]
Left=182
Top=980
NoActivate=1        //(1 to make sure MCE doesn't take the focus out of the sim, when the UI is clicked, 0 otherwise)
NoSound=0        //(set value 1 if you want to cut the various UI sounds emitted when clicking buttons or MCE minimises)
NoFullScreenDraw=0    //(set to 1, to avoid the occasional graphics artefacts than can happen when MCE UI tries to draw, and the sim is in full screen mode)
StartToTray=0        //(set to 1, and every time MCE starts, the UI will not appear unless you click on the icon in system tray)

[FEATURES]
ExecuteCaptainOrders=1
ReadCheckListWhenAsked=1
PilotSpeaksToAtc=1
CopilotReportsFailures=1
EnableInterfaceVoice=1

[OPTIONS]
Debug=0            //(only set this to 1 when instructd by support)
PilotIsBVI=0        //(must be set to 1 for Blind Visually Impaired Pilots)
UIlanguage=1033
MikeTuneOnStartup=1
EnableOptimizations=1
AutoStartWithFS=0
MinimizeToTray=0
MoreResponsive=1
TrainingCompleted=1
RandomFailures=0
TweakFsConfig=0
AtcMikeUseIvao=0
ForceCopilot=1
AudioIn=Headset Microphone (Sound Blast
AudioOut=Headset (Sound Blaster Tactic(3
PilotName=wil de boer            
ShowCommands=1
ForceCommands=0            //(deprecated. Do not use)
DisplayTime=3000
UseMacros=0            //(must be set to 1 For VoxKey to work)
UseNarrator=0
LoudData=0
EnableAnnouncements=1
UseVoxScripts=1
DisableNagging=1
GroundServicesMode=Native
NoBadLanguage=1
NoFMAcallouts=0            //(set this to 1 if you don't want FO to monitor FMA (Flight Mode Annuciator))
NoEngineStartCallouts=0
AllowActionOnEvent=0
V1CalloutIsGO=0            //(Enable this to follow Lufthansa standard call-out procedures. PNF calls-out Go instead of V one)
ReduceChatter=0            //(Enable this if you want to cutout on the amount of FO speech. FO would be more concise)

[PROFICIENCY]
Level=2

[SPEECH]
Volume=100
CpuUsage=75
SpeechPace=750
InprocReco=1
DisablePitchChange=0
MaxConcurrentTasks=4
NumLockKeyMutesReco=0

[SKILL]
Tol3=030,030,400,900,100,100,100,050
Tol2=020,020,200,700,075,075,075,030
Tol1=010,010,100,500,050,050,050,020
Tol0=005,005,050,300,025,025,025,010

[VOICES]
Voice0 =Clive,0,0,0,1
Voice1 =Trav,0,0,0,1
Voice2 =Stella,0,0,0,1
Voice3 =William,0,0,0,1
Voice4 =Microsoft Anna,0,0,0

[ATC]
Mode=Native
PreventNativeATCCancellation=0
UseRadioNoise=1
StaticNoiseLevel=1
SecondaryNeedAtcWindow=0
atc1=0
atc2=1
atc3=1
atc4=1
atc5=1
UseRadarContact=0
IgnoreRC4Registry=0    //(Set this to 1 when RC4 isn't installed on the same machine as MCE)
RC4path=
IgnorePFERegistry=0    //(Set this to 1 when PFE isn't installed on the same machine as MCE)
PFEpath=
IgnoreFlightPlan=0
FlightPlansPath=


[SIMCONTROL]
FsPanels=1
FsMenus=1
FsDialogs=1
FsKneeboard=1
ViewsAndViewpoint=1

[GAMEPAD]
JoyManID=Saitek Pro Flight Yoke
JoyProdID=Saitek Pro Flight Yoke
JoyButton=1
UseWithVoxATC=0        //(set to 1 if you want to use the same joystick assignment with VoxATC. It will ensure FO doesn't listen to your speech while the joystick button is held down using VoxATC)

[GO-FLIGHT]
Use=1            //(set to 1 for MCE to monitor the manual radio dialling process. Whether you do that via mouse-clicks or by rotating Go-Flight or other hardware modules)
TimeOut=3000        //(sets the amount of time in milliseconds that must elapse after you last click on the radio switches in VC panel, or physically rotate a button on the radio rack, before MCE assumes you are finished with dialling. Values between 2000 and 5000 are accepted)


[CHECKLIST]
NoStateCheck=0        //(when set to 1, co-pilot will just read the checklist aloud, wait for any answer and move on, without challenging you on any item. Useful for people running simpits with hardware switches. It can be difficult for FO to read these)
Strict=1            //(set to 1 if you want FO to be very professional with the checklist. Cuts out the banter)
MJC8Q400 Brussels Airlines G-ECOI=C:\Program Files (x86)\Multi Crew Experience\ChkLists\Bombardier_Q400_check.txt
MJC8Q400_QXE=C:\Program Files (x86)\Multi Crew Experience\ChkLists\Bombardier_Q400_check.txt
MJC8Q400_BEE2=C:\Program Files (x86)\Multi Crew Experience\ChkLists\Bombardier_Q400_check.txt
MJC8Q400 Flybe Purple G-PRPL=C:\Program Files (x86)\Multi Crew Experience\ChkLists\Bombardier_Q400_check.txt
Aircreation582SL red=C:\Program Files (x86)\Multi Crew Experience\ChkLists\Generic_Turbo_check.txt
MJC8Q400_QXE WSU=C:\Program Files (x86)\Multi Crew Experience\ChkLists\Bombardier_Q400_check.txt
Wilco - CRJ 700 house=C:\Program Files (x86)\Multi Crew Experience\ChkLists\Generic_Jet_check.txt
MJC8Q400 Flybe Purple G-JEDU=C:\Program Files (x86)\Multi Crew Experience\ChkLists\Bombardier_Q400_check.txt
MJC8Q400_SAS=C:\Program Files (x86)\Multi Crew Experience\ChkLists\Bombardier_Q400_check.txt
b737N352SW=C:\Program Files (x86)\Multi Crew Experience\ChkLists\IFly_737_NG_check.txt
MJC8Q400 Flybe Purple G-JEDR=C:\Program Files (x86)\Multi Crew Experience\ChkLists\Bombardier_Q400_check.txt

[MECHANIC]
PushWithGSXandAES=1


[RAMP]
NoRampToOfficeTalk=0
NoPaxDoorsAutoHandling=0
NoCargoDoorsAutoHandling=0


[PACE]
ActionDelay=1500     //The simulated delay that takes place before FO takes action. Values from 0 to 4000 milliseconds)
MCPdial=100       //The pace at which FO increments or decrements MCP values from 100 to 250 milliseconds). Doesn't apply to some aircraft where the value is hard coded
ButtonPress=800       //The simulated time in milliseconds it takes the FO to flip a single switch. Values 500 to 2500 are accepted
VoxKeyAction=1000  //The delay in milliseconds between two consecutive VoxKey actions. Valid entries 0 to 4000.


[SPLASH]
NoSound=0

[VATSIM]
NotifyPTTstate=0

[PILOTS]

[MISC]
Path=C:\Program Files (x86)\Multi Crew Experience

[TERMINATE]


 

 

Assuming you installed latest package available from website, try replacing "mce.exe" with this one.

I you get an instance where your speech is not being recognized after trying a couple of times, press and hold PTT switch for 2 seconds, then release it.

It could be that it's stuck in ATC mode, where all commands for interaction with FO are suspended and those for ATC are enabled.

 

 

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ok i wil replace the exe.

using the ptt button just results that mce doing the fsx atc things but not voice commands.

i will report back

 

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yes:laugh: yes:laugh: yes:laugh: made the same flight egff-eick 1hour flight.with mjc dash and voice speech connected the whole flight.

now i have done some flights with fsx atc. i`m always fly online

what are the steps to use both mce and online atc.

thanks for all the effort and patience

kind regards

wil

 

 

 

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I also have this same problem. What is the PTT switch/button?

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3 hours ago, wildeboer said:

yes:laugh: yes:laugh: yes:laugh: made the same flight egff-eick 1hour flight.with mjc dash and voice speech connected the whole flight.

now i have done some flights with fsx atc. i`m always fly online

what are the steps to use both mce and online atc.

thanks for all the effort and patience

kind regards

wil

 

 

 

There is still the possibility speech reco goes occasionally missing.

Every time you hold PTT down, MCE has to suppress speech commands for interaction with Fo, checklist and other custom commands (Voxscript and Voxkey).

It then enables ATC specific commands.

Ideally, the process is reversed smoothly every time you release it.

On the occasional letdown (no response from FO after a couple of tries), press and hold PTT for 2 or 3 seconds, then release it.

That should ensure MCE comes out of ATC mode.

For Vatsim, now that you have setup your PTT, go to "General" tab in MCE UI and click <More options> button.

 

In "Advanced Options" panel, click <View Config> button.

"mce.ini" will open in Notepad.

Go to {GAMEPAD] section and add this line.

UseWithOtherAtc=1

Could eventually, just change "useWithVoxAtc=0" to "useWithVoxAtc=1"

Either option will do.

Save thee file, then disable <Talk to ATC controllers> feature in MCE panel and restart it.

From then on, whenever MCE sees that joystick button (PTT) down, it assumes you're talking to some other unknown ATC system.

Same will happen when you hold the <END> key down.

Speech reco resumes when you release PTT.

 

 

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3 hours ago, warbirds said:

I also have this same problem. What is the PTT switch/button?

By default, it's the <END> keyboard key for Vatsim use.

See my other reply above on how to use joystick as well.

 

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