Michael Coldewey

Handover to Tower not working (again)

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Hey guys, hi David,

I just encounter this issue now again every time since installing the latest version. I get taxi instructions on EDDH, but once I reached hold short of runway - no handover to tower and after requesting changes to tower, no clearance for take off.

I imported scenery into P2ATC (Payware EDDH new version from x.org store).

It's not that funny, as flight preparation and so take a lot of time, so I don't want to waste my time.

X-Plane 11.05 / Win 10 64bit / i7 4770 / MSI 1070 / 32GB RAM.

Thanks for any tips.

Cheers,
Michael

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Program StartedPilot 2 ATC (P2A) - version 2.3.0.0  09/24/2017 20:14:50
Application frmP2AMain starting 09/24/2017 20:15:19
Loading Form
Main form openned: Pilot2ATC 2016 v. 2.3.0.0 MFD      AIRAC cycle: 1709
Loading Map Control
LoadMapControl: panel 1
Creating ucMap1
ucMap1 Created
ucMap DockFill set.
Setting Map Mode
Done Loading Map Control
Loading FPL Control
FPL Control Loaded
Pilot2ATC_200.exe    Information    0    SAPI does not implement phonetic alphabet selection.
SIM Version Num: 8; SIM Version: XP
SIM Rate Changed: 1
Pilot2ATC_200.exe    Information    0    SAPI does not implement phonetic alphabet selection.
SIM Version Num: 8; SIM Version: XP
No controller assigned 20:18:38
ControllerFreqChanged: 121.9.  CtlrShrtName: KHUJA Ctr CtlrType: Center20:18:38
Sim Connected: 09/24/2017 20:18:38
ATCAssignsSIDs: True
ATCAssignsSTARs: True
ATCAssignsAPPRs: True
ForcePilotRunwaySelection: False
AutoLoadRecommendedProcedures: True
No controller assigned 20:18:38
ControllerFreqChanged: 123.12.  CtlrShrtName: EDDH ATIS CtlrType: ATIS20:18:38
SIM Rate Changed: 1
 GPS FlightPlan Changed
ucFltPln ValidateCurrentFltPlan Started
 GPS FlightPlan Changed
ucFltPln ValidateCurrentFltPlan Done
Begin FPLFile 09/24/2017 20:19:56
AssignedRunway: RW05 -
AssignedSID: RW05-AMLU8C-AMLUH -
FltPlan ActiveSID: RW05-AMLU8C-AMLUH -
FltPlan ActiveAPPR: ILS - RW26L - I26L -
FltPlan ActiveSTAR: RW26L-NAPS2A-NAPSA -
FP.FileFLtPlan executed.
ATCFltPlan set to Filed FPL
ATC UserNamesAdded
 GPS FlightPlan Changed
NewActiveWpt: Hdg-48
Filed Route: EDDH AMLUH DENIX ULSEN HLZ POVEL ABGUS ALOSO SODRO URONA ABERU TIPAM ARMUT TIVDA LULAR EXUSI TOD PT EDDM
Filed SID: AMLU8C
RW05
Filed STAR: NAPS2A
RW26L
Filed APPR:
Filed APPR Trans:
End FPLFile 09/24/2017 20:20:04
No controller assigned 20:20:19
ControllerFreqChanged: 121.8.  CtlrShrtName: EDDH Gnd CtlrType: Ground20:20:19
Com1StandbyFreqChanged: 123.12.  CtlrShrtName: EDDH ATIS CtlrType: ATIS20:20:19
InterruptAudio in SayItSpeak- Phrase: Lufthansa Five Seven Seven ready to copy IFR Clearance 09/24/2017 20:20:35
Recognized Speech: Lufthansa Five Seven Seven Ready to Copy IFR Clearance 20:20:40
HandleIFRClearanceRequest 20:20:41
gATCAssignsSIDs = True
SpokenAssignedAltitude 20:20:41
SpokenAssignedAltitude 20:20:41
State Changed to: FlightPlanDelivered 20:20
ControllerChanging: False : 09/24/2017 20:20:41
UnInterruptAudio in OnSayItSpeakCompleted 09/24/2017 20:20:41
InterruptAudio in SayPhrase Lufthansa Five Seven Seven is cleared to Echo Delta Delta Mike, fly the AMLU8C departure , with the AMLUH transition , then as filed.  Expect departure runway Zero Five.   Climb to Four Thousand feet  via the departure. Expect higher clearances Two minutes after departure.  Squawk Six Five Two Five 09/24/2017 20:20:41
ATC Speak:  Lufthansa Five Seven Seven is cleared to Echo Delta Delta Mike, fly the AMLU8C departure , with the AMLUH transition , then as filed.  Expect departure runway Zero Five.   Climb to Four Thousand feet  via the departure. Expect higher clearances Two minutes after departure.  Squawk Six Five Two Five20:20:41
Sug Resp:  ~Lufthansa Five Seven Seven is cleared to Echo Delta Delta Mike, fly the AMLU8C departure , with the AMLUH transition , then as filed.   Climb to Four Thousand feet  via the departure. Expect higher clearances Two minutes after departure.  Squawk Six Five Two Five20:20:42
OnSynthSpeakCompleted 09/24/2017 20:21:03
UnInterruptAudio in OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped SugRes:~Lufthansa Five Seven Seven is cleared to Echo Delta Delta Mike, fly the AMLU8C departure , with the AMLUH transition , then as filed.   Climb to Four Thousand feet  via the departure. Expect higher clearances Two minutes after departure.  Squawk Six Five Two Five
 09/24/2017 20:21:03
InterruptAudio in SayItSpeak- Phrase: ~Lufthansa Five Seven Seven is cleared to Echo Delta Delta Mike, fly the AMLU8C departure , with the AMLUH transition , then as filed.   Climb to Four Thousand feet  via the departure. Expect higher clearances Two minutes after departure.  Squawk Six Five Two Five
 09/24/2017 20:21:03
Recognized Speech: Lufthansa Five Seven Seven is cleared to Echo Delta Delta Mike fly the AMLU8C departure with the AMLUH transition then as filed Climb to Four Thousand Feet via the departure Expect higher clearances Two minutes after departure Squawk Six Five Two Five 20:21:23
HandleIFRClearanceReadback 20:21:23
HandleATCAssignedAltitudeReadback 20:21:23
HandleSquawkCodeReadback 20:21:23
IFRReadbackSuccess 20:21:23
SpeakAltimeterSetting 20:21:23
SpeakAltimeterSetting 20:21:23
UnInterruptAudio in OnSayItSpeakCompleted 09/24/2017 20:21:23
InterruptAudio in SayPhrase Lufthansa Five Seven Seven Readback Correct.  Altimeter Three Zero Two Four Let us know when you're ready for pushback.  09/24/2017 20:21:24
ATC Speak:  Lufthansa Five Seven Seven Readback Correct.  Altimeter Three Zero Two Four Let us know when you're ready for pushback. 20:21:24
Sug Resp:  ~ Altimeter Three Zero Two Four20:21:24
OnSynthSpeakCompleted 09/24/2017 20:21:32
UnInterruptAudio in OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped SugRes:~ Altimeter Three Zero Two Four Lufthansa Five Seven Seven
 09/24/2017 20:21:32
InterruptAudio in SayItSpeak- Phrase: ~ Altimeter Three Zero Two Four Lufthansa Five Seven Seven
 09/24/2017 20:21:32
Recognized Speech: Altimeter Three Zero Two Four Lufthansa Five Seven Seven 20:21:37
HandleAltimeterReadback 20:21:37
UnInterruptAudio in OnSayItSpeakCompleted 09/24/2017 20:21:37
InterruptAudio in SayItSpeak- Phrase: Lufthansa Five Seven Seven ready for pushback and engine start 09/24/2017 20:22:38
Recognized Speech: Lufthansa Five Seven Seven Ready for Pushback and Engine Start 20:22:43
HandlePushbackRequest 20:22:43
UnInterruptAudio in OnSayItSpeakCompleted 09/24/2017 20:22:43
InterruptAudio in SayPhrase Lufthansa Five Seven Seven Pushback and engine start approved  09/24/2017 20:22:44
ATC Speak:  Lufthansa Five Seven Seven Pushback and engine start approved 20:22:44
Sug Resp:  ~ Pushback and engine start approved 20:22:44
OnSynthSpeakCompleted 09/24/2017 20:22:49
UnInterruptAudio in OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped SugRes:~ Pushback and engine start approved  Lufthansa Five Seven Seven
 09/24/2017 20:22:49
InterruptAudio in SayItSpeak- Phrase: ~ Pushback and engine start approved  Lufthansa Five Seven Seven
 09/24/2017 20:22:49
Recognized Speech: Pushback and Engine Start Approved Lufthansa Five Seven Seven 20:22:53
UnInterruptAudio in OnSayItSpeakCompleted 09/24/2017 20:22:53
SIM Rate Changed: 0
SIM Rate Changed: 1
InterruptAudio in SayItSpeak- Phrase: Lufthansa Five Seven Seven ready to taxi 09/24/2017 20:57:37
Recognized Speech: Lufthansa Five Seven Seven Ready to Taxi 20:57:41
HandleTaxiRequest 20:57:41
State Changed to: TaxiOut 20:57
UnInterruptAudio in OnSayItSpeakCompleted 09/24/2017 20:57:41
InterruptAudio in SayPhrase Lufthansa Five Seven Seven Taxi to Runway Zero Five Via taxiways Alpha Papa Romeo Oscar November, India, Whiskey, Victor, Kilo, Lima,  Hold Short Runway Zero Five 09/24/2017 20:57:41
ATC Speak:  Lufthansa Five Seven Seven Taxi to Runway Zero Five Via taxiways Alpha Papa Romeo Oscar November, India, Whiskey, Victor, Kilo, Lima,  Hold Short Runway Zero Five20:57:42
Sug Resp:  ~ Taxi to Runway Zero Five Via taxiways Alpha Papa Romeo Oscar November, India, Whiskey, Victor, Kilo, Lima,  Hold Short Runway Zero Five20:57:42
OnSynthSpeakCompleted 09/24/2017 20:57:55
UnInterruptAudio in OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped SugRes:~ Taxi to Runway Zero Five Via taxiways Alpha Papa Romeo Oscar November, India, Whiskey, Victor, Kilo, Lima,  Hold Short Runway Zero Five Lufthansa Five Seven Seven
 09/24/2017 20:57:55
InterruptAudio in SayItSpeak- Phrase: ~ Taxi to Runway Zero Five Via taxiways Alpha Papa Romeo Oscar November, India, Whiskey, Victor, Kilo, Lima,  Hold Short Runway Zero Five Lufthansa Five Seven Seven
 09/24/2017 20:57:55
Speech Rejected: No Speech Recognized09/24/2017 20:58:09
UnInterruptAudio in OnSayItSpeakCompleted 09/24/2017 20:58:09
InterruptAudio in SayItSpeak- Phrase: Lufthansa Five Seven Seven request frequency change to Tower 09/24/2017 21:06:47
Recognized Speech: Lufthansa Five Seven Seven Request Frequency Change to Tower 21:06:51
HandleFrequencyChangeRequest 21:06:51
SpokenRandomSalutation 21:06:52
UnInterruptAudio in OnSayItSpeakCompleted 09/24/2017 21:06:52
InterruptAudio in SayPhrase Lufthansa Five Seven Seven Contact HAMBURG Tower on One Two One Point Two Seven have a good one  09/24/2017 21:06:52
ATC Speak:  Lufthansa Five Seven Seven Contact HAMBURG Tower on One Two One Point Two Seven have a good one 21:06:52
Sug Resp:  ~Tower on One Two One Point Two Seven21:06:52
OnSynthSpeakCompleted 09/24/2017 21:06:59
UnInterruptAudio in OnTTSWavePlaybackStopped SugRes:~Tower on One Two One Point Two Seven Lufthansa Five Seven Seven
 09/24/2017 21:06:59
InterruptAudio in SayItSpeak- Phrase: ~Tower on One Two One Point Two Seven Lufthansa Five Seven Seven
 09/24/2017 21:06:59
Recognized Speech: Tower on One Two One Point Two Seven Lufthansa Five Seven Seven 21:07:04
HandleFrequencyReadback 21:07:04
UnInterruptAudio in OnSayItSpeakCompleted 09/24/2017 21:07:04
AssignedController: 121.27.  CtlrShrtName: EDDH Twr CtlrType: Tower21:07:05
ControllerFreqChanged: 121.27.  CtlrShrtName: EDDH Twr CtlrType: Tower21:07:05
InterruptAudio in SayItSpeak- Phrase: Tower Lufthansa Five Seven Seven ready for departure Zero Five 09/24/2017 21:07:15
Speech Rejected: No Speech Recognized09/24/2017 21:07:20
ControllerChanging: False : 09/24/2017 21:07:20
Speech Rejected
UnInterruptAudio in OnSayItSpeakCompleted 09/24/2017 21:07:20
InterruptAudio in SayItSpeak- Phrase: Tower Lufthansa Five Seven Seven ready for departure Zero Five 09/24/2017 21:07:43
Speech Rejected: No Speech Recognized09/24/2017 21:07:48
Speech Rejected
UnInterruptAudio in OnSayItSpeakCompleted 09/24/2017 21:07:48
State Changed to: Initialized 21:10
Application frmP2AMain ended normally 09/24/2017 21:17:58
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Hi, I think, the problem here is, that:

InterruptAudio in SayItSpeak- Phrase: ~ Taxi to Runway Zero Five Via taxiways Alpha Papa Romeo Oscar November, India, Whiskey, Victor, Kilo, Lima,  Hold Short Runway Zero Five Lufthansa Five Seven Seven
 09/24/2017 20:57:55
Speech Rejected: No Speech Recognized09/24/2017 20:58:09

my copilots voice for taxi readback was not recognized. But is was shown as "green" readback in Pilot2ATC. Happened again just now. As soon as I readback personally, it was acknowleged and I got the hand over as expected.

Would be nice to have a notifier, if voice input either from my or my "copilot" is not recognized correctly, or at least show in "red" instead of "green" with the correct text.

What could be the reason, why copilot is not recognized, but shown correctly?

Best and thank you in advise,
Michael

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The Speech Rejected above would seem to be from an earlier interaction because the "~" indicates a phrase that is suggested and not spoken yet. 

But, no matter.  There is no response expected from the Taxi Read-back.  If the controller does not come back with a correction, you're good to go.  Just taxi to the runway.

Dave

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Hi Dave,

thx for reply. But in my logfile, you can see, that a "HandleTaxiReadback" is not triggered. I saw this on the second fly when it worked as I readback manually. So I think, the Speech Rejected has something to do with it - just my guess.

Cheers,
Michael

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Or to be more precisely, readback from copilot -> same Speech rejected -> manually readback -> Speech recognized -> HandleTaxiReadback

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My point was that the taxi read back being rejected should have no impact on your flight as long as you're not getting corrections from ATC.

The co-pilot's speech is interpreted by the same recognition engine as your voice and is susceptible to not be recognized correctly.  Only Microsoft knows how that can happen.

Dave

 

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