Hello all :)Is it possible? Can you alias a plane to two panels? I would like the second panel to appear as a pop-up when pressing a key combo (SHIFT+6 for example).I ask because I have created my own "approach panel" using FS Panel studio and would like to alias *every* plane to it.Your advice would be much appreciated, thank you! :)

Your question is somewhat confusing. Did you mean that you want to alias two panels to one plane? Did you mean that you want to alias one panel to multiple planes? Did you mean that you want to alias multiple panels into the same plane?Let's go over some concepts. An "Aircraft" is associated with a directory containing an aircraft.cfg file. Within this directory, you can have multiple model, panel, sound, and texture directories. In the aircraft.cfg is one or more sections which describe the "variations" of that aircraft you see when you choose which aircraft you want to fly. Each "variation" starts with {fltsim.x} (square brackets), and then the various components (panel, texture set, sound set, checklist, etc.) are described underneath that heading. Each "variation" can only reference one panel, be it either a local panel to the plane, or one aliased from another plane. So a given "Aircraft" can access as many panels as you want, but only one panel per "variation".So if you are asking if a given plane can access two different panels, no. So now you have to decide what your goal is. If you want to use a single panel in multiple aircraft, that is simple. In the directory containing the panel used by each variation, you can alias the panel you want to use in the panel.cfg file (make sure to back up the original).I don't know if you can alias a subpanel or {window.x} into a panel.cfg file, and still keep the rest of the contents. I doubt it, but I'll have to test that.If you cannot alias a {window.x}, and you want to use the subpanel you created in multiple different panels, IOW, the main panel is different for each "Aircraft", but each panel contains the subpanel you created; you can add the {window.x} section you created to each of the panel.cfg's of all the planes you want to add it to, and assign it to an unused key by changing the x to an unused window number.Let me know if you have any other questions.Thomas[a href=http://www.flyingscool.com/FC_StartJava.html] http://www.flyingscool.com/images/Signature.jpg [/a]I like using VC's :-)

You can definately have one plane with multiple panels, just like the default planes that have an IFR panel and normal panel, you'll have to create a separate panel folder for the plane and than select it when you want to change panels.Open up the Cessna 172 folder and see how the panel and IFR panel folders are used to create different panels for the 172.

It sounded to me that he wants to alias his subpanel into all his panels. IOW, he wanted to have access to two panel.cfg's in a single variation. This you cannot do. He can edit each panel.cfg and add his subpanel to that, though. And I still want to test his idea of using an alias command to insert a {window} section into a panel.cfg. Then he could change a single file and all the panels would get the update. That would be cool. But you might run into a problem with the Window number.Thomas[a href=http://www.flyingscool.com/FC_StartJava.html] http://www.flyingscool.com/images/Signature.jpg [/a]I like using VC's :-)

Thank you all for replying and I am digesting your replies at this moment. Im sorry I should have been clearer in what I meant! This is what I want to do.Current situation:------------------A320------>alised to A320 PanelWhat I want:------------A320------>aliased to A320 Panel ------>aliased to Approach Panel (popup)In the panel.cfg there is as you all know:[fltsim]alias=A320 Panel/panelI tried doing this:[fltsim0]alias=A320 Panel/panel[fltsim1]alias=Approach panel/panelLol it looks so silly now! I thought it would work like liveries do in the aircraft.cfg :(The reason Im asking this question is because I have a large number of planes and will have to add the Approach Panel window entry to each one of them *yikes*But so far from reading what you all have told me and from my own experiments I can see that this is probably not possible! Thanks very much for replying and like I said Im still studying them!! :)

Well, it is exactly like liveries on aircraft. Just like liveries, where you can only have one texture set per livery, you can only have one panel per livery (variation).I will test aliasing a {windowxx} section tonight, but I do not have high hopes it will work.Thomas[a href=http://www.flyingscool.com/FC_StartJava.html] http://www.flyingscool.com/images/Signature.jpg [/a]I like using VC's :-)

Are you going at this the wrong way, or do I not understand still?You want an Airbus (or multiple Airbus) to use a particular panel and whilst using this panel, you want to be able to simply switch to the approach panel?Depending on the complexity of the panels you're meaning to use, you can simply add the approach panel settings to the main panel and happily toggle between the two using shift 1/2/3 etc.Easiest way os to find a panel that uses more than one forward view and look at the panel.cfg file. Dreamfleet Project ManagerGreatest Airliners - DC-8Greatest Airliners - 727 Whisperjethttp://www.dreamfleet2000.com/gfx/images/F...BANNER_PAUL.jpg

Let's try this one again -Well, it is exactly like liveries on aircraft. Just like liveries, where you can only have one texture set per livery, you can only have one panel per livery (variation). Of course, in the case of the panel, all your liveries can point to the same panel, so, as long as all the planes have the same panel, they can all point to the same directory. If your aircraft are spread across mulitple directories, you can alias a panel from one plane into another. But it will be the same panel.A panel.cfg alias file looks like (square brackets, not squiggly):{fltsim}Alias=A320-1panelWhere A320-1 is the name of the directory that has the original panel.I will test aliasing a {windowxx} section tonight, but I do not have high hopes it will work.Thomas[a href=http://www.flyingscool.com/FC_StartJava.html] http://www.flyingscool.com/images/Signature.jpg [/a]I like using VC's :-)

Hi there,Always interesting questions from you!Milton Shupe's D-18 has 2 panels- an ordinary one and an approach one, and that is brought into play with an icon, so it seems very doable, though I daresay the difficulty might come in the bitmap you have available for the approach panel side of things.Good Luck.Andy.

Defining a panel as the panel.cfg file and related bitmaps and gauges, the D-18 doesn't have a normal and approach panel. It has a switch that hides the main window and small ECU (and maybe the big ECU and other windows), and shows the overhead window. Another switch hides the overhead window, and shows the main window and small ECU. You can duplicate the effect by doing:Shift+1Shift+4Shift+5and vice versa.It's all contained in the same panel.cfg. What the original poster wants is to be able to use an approach window he made with multiple planes without having to edit every single panel config manually."Let me help you out. You're cleared to taxi any way you can to any runway you see."

There actually is one way I can think of that you could use your approach window with multple planes without having to edit every single plane which might work. But you'd have to give up one or more minipanels. (The bunch of gauges you see when you hit w would be replaced by your panel.) The minipanel config is in aircraftdefaultpanelNote: It's not a standard panel.cfg file, and you should make a backup before changing anything. (You'll want to use a regular text editor for this, I doubt FS Panel Studio is designed to edit the minipanel config.) Some planes might override this and have their own minipanel though. And I haven't actually tested this, but it ought to work. You switch between normal panel, approach panel/minipanel, and no panel via w by default."Let me help you out. You're cleared to taxi any way you can to any runway you see."

Brilliant!And it looks like you can make changes by type of aircraft. That is so cool!Thomas[a href=http://www.flyingscool.com/FC_StartJava.html] http://www.flyingscool.com/images/Signature.jpg [/a]I like using VC's :-)

It takes some weird tweaking to get it to work right though, you'll probably have to change the position= and do some tweaking with pixel_size=, to get it to work right. I got the default Baron panel to work with the D-18 through a lot of trial and error. This is what I ended up using for the window definition:[MiniPanels Prop MultiEngine]MiniPanel03=Test //This is just the name of the window, not usually visibleand[MiniPanel03]file=Baron_background_640.bmpfile_1024=Baron_background_1024.bmpsize_mm=640pixel_size=1024,530 //Width, Heightwindow_size_ratio=1.0position=3 //3 = middle left sideident=MINIPANEL//Gauges would go here"Let me help you out. You're cleared to taxi any way you can to any runway you see."

Hi again,Peter Mcleland has posted on the screenshot forum a new panel for his Baron which includes a landing panel so you may find more tips there.Andy.

Actually the landing panel is part of the DF Baron package, Peter just swapped out some guages.Bud