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And here, I thought the first post was quite apropos, and wasn't a "bash" at all. I happen to agree with his opinion. I kinda like Flight (wish I could get it to work (I can't connet to Live)), but the last thing I'm gonna do is buy a plane without a cockpit. But, in the meantime, I've still got FSX. It would be nice to be able to upgrade to something better, but, guess I'll have to keep waiting. This is not a bash. I'm here because I keep hoping that I'll learn something about how Flight is going to get closer to what I'm looking for, and I keep hoping I'll find a solution to my problem so I can at least get the Stearman.

One more issue. Yes, I've downloaded and installed flight. Unfortunately, there appears to be a problem with my router and MS as I can't login to MS Live, so I can't buy DLC or even get the free extensions. So, if it were there, I would have checked Yes on "Did you have problems installing the software" and No on "Have you been able to resolve the problems yet" I've spent hours researching the problem. My last resort is to call for help, and I assume they will tell me I need a new router from Verizon FIOS. That actually makes perfect sense to me. Obviously, there is still a whole lot of development to do. Why release an SDK when resources are better spent finishing the product? The last thing I would want to do as a developer would be to lock myself in to a path because of some stupid decision I made in the beginning (that at the time made sense), but now I have to support the "bug/feature" going forward because all these products depend on it working a certain way.

Please, please, please, please, please follow this advice. I can't come to this website anymore to read the news. It's impossible to read now.

Ok, I figured it out. In Chrome, I went to the tool on the top right, selected Settings/Under the Hood, clicked on the 'Clear Browsing Data' button, unselected everything and selected Empty Cache. And yes, even after clearing the cache, I get a 404 when I try to go to the website issues tracker using the link in the "Welcome to the New Front Page" article. And when I try to post new threads to the forum, I get a blank page in return. And my new thread doesn't show up till I quit the browser and return.

HOW do I clear cache?

I was hoping to post an issue or two regarding the website layout, but when I try to go the link, I get a 404. I tried using a browser I have never used to visit avsim.com. I always visit through www.avsim.com. It appears the comments still cannot paginate, IOW, I can't see any comments beyond those that I see in the first list? When I click on 2 or next or >>, nothing changes, I can't see any more comments. I really, really, really, really, really, hate the dual column format for the news. I mean, really, most of the news item titles end up being 1 or two words / line, and end up being 6 lines long. Plus, my brain gets all confused because I have to scan down and can't scan across, since each line ends up being multiple lines because there isn't enough space for more than a word or two in the titles. I see absolutely NO purpose in the dual column news format. Please get rid of the light blue borders surrounding the main content. You've packed so much information into the space of the page. Why waste all that space? What purpose do the borders serve? There are no borders in the title block, so don't tell me they are necessary.

Sorry, duplicate post. When I post a new topic, I get a blank page in response. I didn't realize my post had posted. I didn't see the new post till I quit the browser and restarted it and went back to Avsim.com. If I just went back to the forum and refreshed the page, my post(s) did not show up. Time to go back to the old format again till all these issues are addressed? I'm finding it really hard to use the site. I can't read the news (I hate the dual column format). At least maybe ban the use of images in news articles. You can't fit more than a word per line beside an image in a dual column format. That makes the titles nearly impossible to read.

Well, I searched but didn't see anyone else previously posting on this.I went to the microsoft.com/games/flight page and decided to watch their promo video. Well, it's being served from YouTube, which of course, then gives you tiles of related videosI thought it was kind of funny that, on their main promo page, that the "What a really bad dude Thinks of Flight" video ends up getting prominently highlighted after their promo video, lol. Oops! :)You'd think Microsoft would have the resources to post this video in their own space?

OK, more news. I ran the network test on my desktop, and it passed all tests. The desktop is wired to the router.I installed Flight on it; it, too, cannot connect to Live, same error message. So it seems Symantec is not the problem, since it is not on this computer.I deleted all the references to XLive port forwards on my Actiontec router. I tried logging in again. no go from Flight.Note that I can still log in using MSGFW Marketplace app.It did recreate a port forward for XLIve at UDP 19673.BTW, the another port was missing from my list above, Port 443 (TCP)Which brings up a question. I can only create port forwards for a single IP address. I've been using the IP address of the computer that I am trying to connect from. How do I handle this if I have multiple computers which all need to use the same ports, as required by Live?

A little more information:I ran the microsoft Network test. from http://www.microsoft.com/windows/using/tools/igd/results.mspxAll the tests passed except:It couldn't resolve the NAT test - something about "DIdn't receive any Router Advertisement frames from the Teredo server"It didn't run the UPnP testThe detailed report gave the following result - The operating system is Windows Vista get_FirewallEnabled() failed=80070057 IsUPnPDiscoveryEnabled() failed=80070057 Failed to get the UPnP Discovery SettingsHmm, one issue is that the computer is running Windows 7, not Vista.UPnP is definitely supported by the router and on, and I could see multiple open ports that had been automatically created, including a Windows Live port for this computer.

Ok, yes, UPnP is on.It seems the last thing I haven't referenced is the Symantec Endpoint Protection. Any thoughts on settings that I need for this?Guess I'll have to talk to IT tomorrow, since it appears they have turned off my ability to turn off protection.

Oh, the router is a FIOS (Actiontec) mi424wr wireless N router. It is not on the list of supported routers found in a link at Microsoft Support KB977709.Oh, and, yes, I can sign in using the GfW Marketplace App.I tried going to a local library, and I can't log in from MSFlight there either. The GfW Marketplace app can log in there, though.When I get home, I'll check if UPnP is on. But, as I noted the ports are all open.

Ok, I logged into my router and added the following ports to port forwarding for the computer I am using:Port 88 (UDP)Port 3074 (UDP & TCP)Port 53 (UDP & TCP)and Port 80 (TCP)It seemed to update the router automatically, but I rebooted the router anyway.It didn't help at all.BTW, this is my company laptop, and it has Symantec virus stuff installed. Interestingly, I can't figure out how to turn it off. And the interface is so cryptic, I can't figure out how to make changes to the firewall settings nor do I have any clue where to begin.

Hmm,Well, I don't think I have a choice about my router, it came from Verizon FIOS. Are there any settings I can check on the router? Guess I'll have to break out the FIOS router manual to see how to change settings on it.My problem is NOT Windows Live failed to initialize. But I did miss that one little sentence at the bottom of the post about problems associated with connecting to Live. Problem is, when I click on the link, it says "Oops, that shouldn't have happened. Looks like you found a glitch in the system" - but nothing else. Gee, Thanks Microsoft. Guess I'll have to browse the support pages.I tried uninstalling and reinstalling, but no change.BTW, my XBox 360 connects just fine to XBox live through the wireless in the past. XBox is broken at the moment though, so I can't check it today (I need a new DVD).

I tried serching for this problem and didn't find any similar topics, so...I am running on an HP Elitebook 8650w with Windows 7 Pro. I'm connected to the internet over wireless through FIOS. I installed Flight, and it installed ok and runs fine.But when I try to sign in to Windows Live, it tries to download my profile, then I get the following error message:"The Live Service may be unavailable..."I have an existing windows live account. I can log into it fine from IE9.I can't change the password, but it seems to be ok (the same number of *'s as characters). I did install the Windows Live login helper software a while ago. Windows Live Essentials is installed.Any thoughts?