Does anyone use it? Is it worth while? What do you like the best about it? What do you feel is the worst about it? Saw the website, but I am just trying to get a feel for what people think of it.:DBy the way, I am only looking for constructive opinions about the product. In no way do I want to start a war of "It's the best, no your wrong it's the worst" kind of thing. I see there is a Demo, perhaps that might be a place to start for my own experience.Thanks,Kevin

Absolutely, you should download the demo and give it a whirl and see what you think of it. I downloaded the demo and enjoyed it, but not enough to buy it. But that's just me. You'll find a lot of opinions on it with a search of the forum here.Jim

As was said, try the fully functional (except that you have to start at KSFO) demo. You have noting to lose. It's better than relying on opinions that may differ from yours, or mine, or anyone else's. I haven't flown without it since I purchased it.

Really won't make a "serious" flight without it! I may do a quick VFR flight because I just want to, but when I fly a Lear or heavier, I load up the passengers. I have become a better "SimPilot" because of it. One of the best Addons I've ever bought. Hope I can do it in FSX.

FSPassengers IMHO is nice for airliner flying. (And has some nice bells and whistles.) For GA type flying I like FSEconomy better. I'm more a GA person so I prefer FSE. I don't fly big multi-engine jets much, except for the An-72. :)www.fseconomy.com"Let me help you out. You're cleared to taxi any way you can to any runway you see."

>FSPassengers IMHO is nice for airliner flying. (And has some>nice bells and whistles.) For GA type flying I like FSEconomy>better. I'm more a GA person so I prefer FSE. I don't fly big>multi-engine jets much, except for the An-72. :)>www.fseconomy.com>>"Let me help you out. You're cleared to taxi any way you can>to any runway you see."Hmmm, there is also FS Cargo, which is a bit different from FSEconomy. Not better (nor worse, either), just different. Actually, I'd like to see an amalgam of FSEconomy, FSCargo and FSPassengers. I'd buy it like a shot.:D

I've been known to use FSCargo and FSPassengers together, which is a little fiddly, but seems to work fairly well. You have to tell FSPax not to adjust the aircraft weight and then load what FSCargo gives you weight wise, to get the financial side (or, if you're cheating, more load, because you won't actually have to haul it but will get paid for it... :-wink2 )FSEconomy, on the other hand, I never got on with. I think it's just personal preference though. I never had any problem with FSPax and GA aircraft although I will agree that it has more functionality when using it with larger types.Cheers,Ian P.

>Actually, I'd like to see an amalgam of FSEconomy, FSCargo and>FSPassengers. I'd buy it like a shot.>:)Really? Well, I've got some great news for you! :There's a new "plug in" for FSPassengers you can find under 'more downloads' - Pilot Career Beta. Here's abbridged description from readme file:"The purpose is to provide virtual pilots using FSP to have the feel of working their way up the ranks from student to legend through employment at various airlines. Each airline will provide the pilot with a variety of routes that will be assigned automatically. Through type-rating certification, building seniority within an airline and good performance you can go from flying short hops in the C172 to half way around the globe in the 747-400.(.........)At aircraft certification, first select a manufacturer, then an aircraft by model name. You will see the cost to "take the exam," the minimum C rating, the minimum hours on a particular class and that class and any other aircraft that share that type-rating.At first, you will only be able to get certified on the C172, C182 or M20, so select one and hit the button. Since these require zero hours, it's an instant pass.(......)Now that you "can" fly a plane (or two), go to the Job Openings screen.... (......) ...there should be some jobs, although they aren't real jobs. At this stage, all you have is a student pilot rating and will have to pick up some student hours first. "Sign up" with a flight school and begin building hours on your new aircraft.If you go to Work History, you will see your current "job," in this case, a flight school. The salary is negative because you have to pay for the classes - and the aircraft rental. When ready, go to Next Flight.(.....)The flights are all shuttle style, so you will fly out on the first leg and back on the second. Now go to FSP and fly the flight as normal. I plan to have a series of airlines and logos ready to drop into the FSP folder so that you can transfer your pilot from one airline to another, as your career calls for it. This is another reason why you'll need to perform well, as some airlines will have limited funds to allow for transfer. Remember that if using the financial model, the airline has to buy the aircraft as well.(.....)From here, you can continue with the current school or look for another. Continue with flights until you achieve C1 - Private Pilot.(.....)Ultimately, you can work all the way up to Trans-Continental routes in jumbo jets, though this requires mucho hours, both within a company and on the MEJ class.(.......)There are also several features that are in the beta code but not yet completed, so I left them out. These include:- Pay raise model - increase in salary over a period based on longevity with a company, rank, etc.- Airline Viewer - screen to scroll through and view info on all airlines in the database.- Demotion Routine - if you perform poorly enough and receive a downgrade in rank, you risk being fired from your current job.- Sort options for jobs - easliy filter job openings by aircraft type, region, etc..."So, as you can see, this is simply a great expansion of an otherwise fantastic addon, and can be just what you've been waiting for!!!:)http://www.fspassengers.com/images/banner/sig/sdc8.jpg

FSP is amazing! Try the demo.. but it's a "must have" addon for fs;)

FSCargo is an interesting addon, but may be a bit more complex then I really want. I'm also not much of a payware buyer, the only "payware" addon I use is the MAAM DC-3, which I consider to be more donationware then payware. And if it wasn't for the XC-47 I wouldn't have bought it either, (afterall there was the default DC-3) but a DC-3/C-47 on amphibious floats was a must have plane for me. And since I bought it direct I know the money went to a good cause. :)FSEconomy also has the community aspects. I'm not the only one out there flying, and can actually see where those other aircraft have been and who's been flying them. But even at that, I basically took a break from FSE flying for a year and only recently got back into it. (And found some major changes to boot, like player owned FBOs.) :)"Let me help you out. You're cleared to taxi any way you can to any runway you see."

FSP is worth the price. I really enjoy it. It is a little better suited to flying heavies with a couple hundred passengers than simulation flying a few VIPs low and slow in light twins and singles. This is not inherent in the program, it just was developed more with heavies in mind so there a few things that need tweaking. For example the weight and balance templates used in loading passengers are better suited to heavies. The developer assumed that the user would be planning for whole sections of passengers (first class, business class, economy, etc) rather than single or pairs of seats. Likewise, there is no allowance in the configuration of weight and balance for the weight and position of the pilot and co-pilot because these are trivial matters in a 757. Also, some of the penalties need to be switched off if you fly light GA (like the requirement for use of flaps on take off, some ac don't require it). Appropriate workarounds have been developed for all of these things though. Buy it. You will be hooked. Definately enriches the experience. There are new and realistic failures, new sounds, a new concern with flight planning, etc. Active website as well, very helpful and enthusiastic posters.

>For example the weight and balance>templates used in loading passengers are better suited to>heavies. The developer assumed that the user would be>planning for whole sections of passengers (first class,>business class, economy, etc) rather than single or pairs of>seats. Likewise, there is no allowance in the configuration>of weight and balance for the weight and position of the pilot>and co-pilot because these are trivial matters in a 757.There are user-made templates available. Further, one can create their own template for specific aircraft.

True, and these are the only solution. But they do not permit the definition of stations that are reserved for the flight crew and of a fixed weight (i.e., the program will try to fill them with passengers even if you define them as non-revenue seats) among other things. I do have a lengthy post at the FsP site that outlines a work around involving locating the pilot/first officer as forward cargo at the station in the cfg reserved for pilot and co-pilot, but this has its own small difficuties. There has been some discussion of addressing this when a new version comes out. Still, a good program worth having even before the next version.