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Logitech Multi-panel

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Hello,
Before all things, I am not an expert with the language of Shakespeare I prefer that of Molière, so I go to google translate every time so my apologies.
Here's my problem:
I have been using FSX SP2 for a long time and wanting to improve my user experience I bought a Logitech Multi-Panel.
Very quickly I realized that to go further in its use, it was necessary to use third-party software like LINDA.
Today I have 2 major problems and I cannot find the solution on the Web.
First of all I have a curious phenomenon on the display when I select the altitude and more than a long complicated speech I put a video that will show the concern

https://youtu.be/LMon1DjS0Kg

My second concern comes from the assignment of the keys themselves.
For example for the AP key I program the AP MASTER function, but when I test it it does not work, on the console I see the listing below (filtering has been performed):

   819796 *** EVENT: Cntrl= 65580 (0x0001002c), Param= 0 (0x00000000) AP_MASTER
   819796 *** EVENT: Cntrl= 65580 (0x0001002c), Param= 0 (0x00000000) AP_MASTER
   819937 LUA.0: Local: value = PR:06A30D060:8
   819937 LUA.0: Local: value = PR:06A30D060:8
   819953 LUA.0: Local: s = [EVNT] Execute Command = "PR:06A30D060:8"
   820000 LUA.0: Local: jid = 06A30D060
   820000 LUA.0: Local: btn = 8
   820015 LUA.0: Local: s = [EVNT] OnPress Button detected PR:06A30D060:8 ++++++++
   820046 LUA.0: Local: s = [hHID] Checking Saitek button press 06A30D060
   820062 LUA.0: Local: vid = 06A3
   820062 LUA.0: Local: pid = 0D06
   820078 LUA.0: Local: s = [hHID] Checking Saitek vid/pid 06A3/0D06
   820093 LUA.0: Local: s = 1699
   820093 LUA.0: Local: ret = 
   820109 LUA.0: Local: ret = 6A3
   820109 LUA.0: Local: ret = 06A3
   820125 LUA.0: Local: s = [COMM] HexToStr 06A3
   820140 LUA.0: Local: s = 1699
   820140 LUA.0: Local: s = 3333
   820156 LUA.0: Local: ret = 
   820156 LUA.0: Local: ret = D05
   820171 LUA.0: Local: ret = 0D05
   820187 LUA.0: Local: s = [COMM] HexToStr 0D05
   820187 LUA.0: Local: s = 3333
   820203 LUA.0: Local: s = 3334
   820203 LUA.0: Local: ret = 
   820218 LUA.0: Local: ret = D06
   820218 LUA.0: Local: ret = 0D06
   820234 LUA.0: Local: s = [COMM] HexToStr 0D06
   820250 LUA.0: Local: s = 3334
   820250 LUA.0: Local: s = [EVNT] Ignore Radio button 0D06/8
   820390 LUA.0: Local: value = 


I tried uninstalling / reinstalling LINDA and the Multi Panel without success
If you have an idea I'm interested because I'm a bit lost
Thanks in advance for your help

Edited by Obbiwan22

The video shows that you may be running 2 different software programs that are interfering with each other. The Multi-panel also appears very new.

You need to uninstall the Logitech/Saitek software if you want LINDA to control the panel. Alternatively, you can disable LINDA control of the panel by unticking the enable checkbox in Setup Joysticks. 

If you still have problems please follow the Fault Diagnosis Procedure and email be the logs and confit-hid.lua files  

 

Andrew Gransden

Scotland, UK

LINDA Support/Developer - VATSIM and BAVirtual - Airbus Flyer

i7 1TB SSD GTX980 - FSX/P3D - Aerosoft Airbus A318/A319/A320/A321 - FS2Crew

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despite a very slight improvement, it still does not work properly, so I just sent a message with the Fault Diagnosis Procedure

thanks again

  • Author

After an email exchange with Andrew, it turns out that the key assignments were wrong in the config-hid.lua file
Andrew communicated to me an example of this file which allowed me to solve all my problem of key assignments which works very well on the Beechcraft Baron 58
For the autopilot key for example:


Before:
- ## Saitek Multi Panel ## (06A30D060) ## {NoSerNum} ############

JSTK ["06A30D060"] [8] = "FSX: _AP_MASTER: 0"

JSTK["06A30D060"][9]="FSX:_AP_HDG_HOLD:0"
JSTK["06A30D060"][10]="FSX:_AP_NAV1_HOLD:0"
JSTK["06A30D060"][11]="FSX:_AP_MACH_HOLD:0"


Andrew's solution that works

JSTK ["06A30D060"] [8] = "Autopilot_MASTER_toggle"

JSTK["06A30D060"][9]="Autopilot_HDG_hold"

JSTK["06A30D060"][10]="Autopilot_NAV_hold"
JSTK["06A30D060"][11]="Autopilot_AIRSPEED_hold"
......


Regarding point number 1, the removal of all LOGITECH / SAITEK software has enabled the switching from one value to another.
But as the video below shows, the wrong values are not displayed.
There is a scaling problem

https://youtu.be/3LDAJxFkB6c

The problem therefore remains intact for this subject

I will need to take a look at the scaling issue. I am working on the P3Dv5 fix at the moment so there will be a delay.

Andrew Gransden

Scotland, UK

LINDA Support/Developer - VATSIM and BAVirtual - Airbus Flyer

i7 1TB SSD GTX980 - FSX/P3D - Aerosoft Airbus A318/A319/A320/A321 - FS2Crew

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I am ready to do all the tests that allow to find a solution and it can help the community. It will be perfect.

I think of a theory without having formal proof of it.
when I look at the value in feet and convert it into meters, I realize that I am at each loan of the truth example:
1000 feet -> 304 meter displayed on the multi panel 300
2000 feet -> 609.6 meter displayed on the multi panel 610
3000 feet -> 914.4 meter displayed on the multi panel 910
4000 feet -> 1219.2 meter displayed on the multi panel 1220

if we take into account the rounding it can be an explanation, but I'm not sure
Thanks for your help

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The new flight simulator 2020 will be released at the end of the year, so I'm not interested in P3D V5, so I have to continue to dig my little problem.

Since obviously this is a variable problem between FSUIPC and LINDA, I used FS-INTERROGATE2std to find out the content of the variables.

The variable concerned is 0x07D4 for an altitude displayed at 1000 in the cockpit and 300 on the Saitek I get the value 19975372 in buffer 1.

If I divide it by 65356 (figure indicated in the FSUIPC SDK), I get 304.7999877929688 or about the value displayed on the Saitek.
When I look at the getALTValue () function in LINDA's common.lua file, I notice that there is the following condition:

if P3D == 1 or A2A == 1 then
         alt = alt * 3.2808399
    end

I therefore take it back to my account and I multiply 304.7999877929688 by 3.2808399 I get 999.9999614706848 or after rounding 1000 as the display in the cockpit.

Is my reasoning correct?

Edited by Obbiwan22

I understand the problem. You will need to wait a little longer. I am still working on P3Dv5 testing and improvements.

Andrew Gransden

Scotland, UK

LINDA Support/Developer - VATSIM and BAVirtual - Airbus Flyer

i7 1TB SSD GTX980 - FSX/P3D - Aerosoft Airbus A318/A319/A320/A321 - FS2Crew

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my problem is not under P3D V4 or V5 but under FSX
Thank you again for your help

  • Author

I'm continuing my research on my little problem and I must admit that I'm a bit new to this type of programming
So I check the value of offset 07D4 directly in the Linda console and I use the plot to apply the calculations to it:

07D4 :UD :DEC : *1/65536*3.2808399

In the console I now have

641875 LUA.0: LINDA:: Watching new offset: 07D4:UD:DEC:*1/65536*3.2808399 = 19975372
   653157 LUA.0: LINDA:: [EVNT] Execute Command = "PR:06A30D060:7"
   653188 LUA.0: LINDA:: [EVNT] OnPress Button detected PR:06A30D060:7 ++++++++
   653204 LUA.0: LINDA:: [hHID] Checking Saitek button press 06A30D060
   653204 LUA.0: LINDA:: [hHID] Checking Saitek vid/pid 06A3/0D06
   653204 LUA.0: LINDA:: [COMM] HexToStr 06A3
   653204 LUA.0: LINDA:: [COMM] HexToStr 0D05
   653219 LUA.0: LINDA:: [COMM] HexToStr 0D06
   653219 LUA.0: LINDA:: [EVNT] Ignore Radio button 0D06/7
   653329 LUA.0: LINDA:: [O] Offset: UD 0x07D4 = 700 (13982761*1/65536*3.2808399)

So my reasoning is good since it conforms to the display in the cockpit
Starting from the same idea as Kama2004 I define a new getALTValue () variable in the user.lua file

function getALTValue ()
local alt
    alt = round(ipc.readUD((0x07D4) / 65536)* 3.2808399)
                _loggg('[SAITEK] Multi-Panel Alt value = '.. alt)
    return alt
end

I cannot now control the value of alt, I do not have a display in the console _loggg ('[SAITEK] Multi-Panel Alt value =' .. alt) does not work and the display on the saitek is not edit
You can help me

thanks again

Edited by Obbiwan22

Do you have the Saitek Panels checkbox ticked in LINDA Setup? Try changing this to see if it alters the display. 

Andrew Gransden

Scotland, UK

LINDA Support/Developer - VATSIM and BAVirtual - Airbus Flyer

i7 1TB SSD GTX980 - FSX/P3D - Aerosoft Airbus A318/A319/A320/A321 - FS2Crew

  • Author

yes the Saitek Panel checkbox is well ticked

With the checkbox ticked, it means that all input and output is hard coded in the GUI (Linda.exe). There is nothing you will be able to do in LUA to change the output. I will take a look when I can get to it.

By untickIng the box the LUA is used. Although it is slower you can gain control of the output. I will need to check to advise were this code can be found. For the moment look at lib-Saitek.lua in /Linda/libs. 

Andrew Gransden

Scotland, UK

LINDA Support/Developer - VATSIM and BAVirtual - Airbus Flyer

i7 1TB SSD GTX980 - FSX/P3D - Aerosoft Airbus A318/A319/A320/A321 - FS2Crew

  • Author

Hello,
The last POST allowed me to move forward significantly
So I unchecked the checkbox of the Saitek panel, which allowed me to see in the console the messages in _loggg and therefore to control my modifications
So I take my problem from the beginning (the user.lua file is empty) in order to make a fair observation.
I go to the common.lua file and line 5306 --_ loggg ('[awg] getALTvalue =' .. tostring (alt)) remove the - -
The console now displays
[awg] getALTvalue = 305 for an actual display of 1000


My theory is validated, the treatment is wrong
I now put these lines of code in the user.lua file


function getALTValue ()
local alt
    alt = round (ipc.readUD (0x07D4) / 65536)
    alt = round (round (alt * 3.2808399) / 10) * 10
_loggg ('[SAITEK] Multi-Panel Alt value =' .. tostring (alt))
    return alt
end


I try again and I notice a curious operation as soon as we want to adjust the altitude, I go from 300 to 10200 or 65300 to fall back to 30 randomly
As a reminder in my config-hid.lua file (following Andrew's good advice), I add:


JSTK ["06A30D060"] [6] = "SAI_MULTI_increase_value"
JSTK ["06A30D060"] [7] = "SAI_MULTI_decrease_value"


So I decide to delete these lines in my configuration.
I now find myself with the display of the correct values on the Saitek. And normal and progressive operation
I only have a refreshing problem on the VS
Do you think that these modifications can be incorporated into the basic version?


Friendly

Well done. The SAI_MULTI_increase_value/ SAI_MULTI_decrease functions were designed (by someone with a bigger brain than me) to work with all the ALT/VS/.... knob positions. These are still needed in LUA to make the Multi Panel fully functional.

You should look at these functions to find that part which change the Altitude value and insert your modified getALTValue() there or where the display instruction is.

As a tip, normal airborne real time software keeps the input and output functions separate. The reason is that the no input must be missed but output can be much slower. 

Edited by ScotFlieger

Andrew Gransden

Scotland, UK

LINDA Support/Developer - VATSIM and BAVirtual - Airbus Flyer

i7 1TB SSD GTX980 - FSX/P3D - Aerosoft Airbus A318/A319/A320/A321 - FS2Crew

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