Saba's airport, Juancho Yrausquin, in the Caribbean near St. Maarten, has one of the shortest commercial airport runways in the world.In FSX I see a cross on each side of the runway. Does it mean that it is closed now? Or is this only in FSX and not in reality?http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/159844.jpg(Saba Picture © Linda Garrison) http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/159845.jpg(Saba in FSX)Jozef K. http://homepages.onsnet.nu/~jkusters/signature.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juancho_E._Yrausquin_AirportClosed to commercial traffic, unless a waiver is granted. That may have changed since the data for FSX was compiled, but there are later shots supposedly from June this year on Airliners.net that still show the `x`'s. You could check with ICAO, I supposeAllcott

Not just closed to commercial traffic - closed to all traffic! Only properly-certified pilots on authorized commercial flights may use the facility.In the FS version, there are no parking spots, since it is closed, so anyone starting a flight there will be placed at the ARP.Best regards.Luis

Thanks Allcott. I found a photo on Airliners.net which shows those crosses too. See:http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0723905/L/Jozef K. http://homepages.onsnet.nu/~jkusters/signature.jpg

Remember how FSX airport data is created - from a database - with very little local tweaking.The world navagation databases list Saba as Closed. So that's how it gets placed in FS.Though it has to be one of the more active "closed" airports in the world.Don't worry - someone will soon create a modification file to have some parking spots on the airport and start locations on the runway ends.Though AI traffic will probably never successfully use it. The runway is too short for successful AI operation.

>Remember how FSX airport data is created - from a database ->with very little local tweaking.Ummmm... kind of. There is actually an incredible amount of work that goes into an airport.The raw airport data we acquire is actually pretty minimal. Of what you experience at an airport in FS only runways, ILS, and comms (I may be forgetting something) are present in this data.The rest of the airport - taxiways, taxiway lighting, hold shorts, aprons, apron lighting, parking, taxiway signs, terminals, hangars, backgrounds, fences, windsocks, beacons, etc. - are all hand-authored.So in a sense you are correct. It's not really local tweaking - it's full-on fabrication.As to the currency, I believe the airport data snapshot we are working on is from April-ish of 2005. So with extremely few exceptions this is the world FSX is based on. Given the incredible number of man-hours needed to process this data it's just not feasible to keep track of and implement "late breaking changes."-Doug

FSX lists the ICAO code as SABA. I think that must be TNCS. Or has this changed?Does it make (in real world) any difference: white or yellow crosses on the runway? In FSX they are yellow, on the Airliners.net photos they are white.Jozef K. http://homepages.onsnet.nu/~jkusters/signature.jpg