>We thought, that we could help somebody by developing an>installer... but it seemes that nobody want's one...>>Maybe we should stop the project...MR Meier, I for one am interested in what you are putting together. Please contact me at [email protected] so much for all your hard work :)Tim

Rudolf,Sorry to hear you are discouraged so easily.Although it also proves one of the other points I made earlier.Now, even IF your Installer technology would result in the perfect product for FS addon installation, there's still other things to consider. Like my "secondly" and "thirdly" points made earlier.Again, it happened once too often in the past few years, that someone very enthousiastically started a development that could be used freely used in the flightsim community; and when it DID became a major success, it suddenly became payware or the developper lost interrest in FS.And I, as a freeware developper, certainly don't want to make myself dependant on that. Which is, I admit, my major reluctance.Please, don't take my (and I'm sure: a lot of other designers) cynical attitude personally; maybe your idea / technology IS truely great, but there's more to it then just delivering a perfect product.Moreover, trying to promote your ideas via a forum like this, isn't the right approach IMO, because (and I'm willing to bet on that), most readers in this forum are very reluctant with auto-install technology and prefer to install manually, for all reasons mentioned.The vast majority of your target audience (the casual simmer that just want to do a simple and trouble-free install, and don't can/want to understand the how and why) isn't even aware of this thread.Now, if you are really convinced that your Install technology is a great product, try to promote it with some of the well-known major commercial componies (or even MS themselves). Because if you can convince them, the rest will probably follow. Without that, your (by iself, excellent initiative !) is doomed to fail. And that has nothing to do with the technical aspect of your solution.Just MY opinion of course :-)Regards, Rob Barendregt

:-) no... we are not stopping for ever. We will come back. That's not a proof of what you sayed. But currently I think we have to step back and maybe change something. It took about 6 months to develop the product and now we tryed to introduce the first version for some months and: When we were on top of the news lists, we had a lot of traffic on our page and our sample planes have been installed more than 2000 times in only 2 weeks!We thought, that this could make it interesting for some developers to try out how the product works for them. But... we didn't have an echo (about 500 SDK downloads, but nobody seemed to work with it).And here's the problem: Maybe users want to get planes delivered that way. But developers are ignoring this fact. ... this installer is nothing that can be used on zip files, so the initiative has to come from the developers... and they don't want to use it...So, I think, what we really need is a "launch customer" ... but I think it has to be a designer like POSKY, iFDG or others who are producing planes that everybody want's to have, not those really bad ones... but we didn't find somebody to work with... allthough we offered, that we would create the setups and we would provide everything that's needed to place the packages to the web, like a server, websites and so on... they still don't want it...... about the other things:1) We would never change the price for this product. It's free for freeware developers and it costs something for those who want to sell the packages.2) We tryed to contact distributers and even Microsoft to ask them, if they are interested in such a piece of software... we never got an answer from anybody...So... let's see what the future brings...

Ok, fair enough.As I said: there's more to introducing an idea than just a technically good product. In fact, sometimes the opposite is true.And I won't dare to name "FSX" as an example of the latter statement :-)I wish you success anyway ...Regards, Rob