Hi there

I am mainly using X-plane and I need to activate callouts when they are not available in the GTN screen. But I have no clue how to make this configuration work when it is not there. I am attaching a couple pics to illustrate what I mean...

Thanks for helping!

Anyone knows how to make the voice callout option in the second picture appear in the first pls?

Hello Blaser

I had thought that the VCO for 500 ft and various levels below required an upgrade for HTAWS to the standard GTN750. This may not be integrated into the trainer as the HTAWS test screen, selectable altitude levels and bypass switch are not available for selection. I had tried to set this up for "somewhat steep" STOL approaches with the DHC-6 but had no luck.

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/72799
https://sarasotaavionics.com/avionics/htaws-for-gtn-series

Similar to the support software package and audio panel required for Telligence (voice recognition) which in my opinion is awesome. The hardware addon page is Xed out.
Telligence Voice Command Guide

RXP will be along and confirm if the HTAWS VCO are not included in the Garman Trainer.

1 hour ago, Draggendrop said:

Hello Blaser

I had thought that the VCO for 500 ft and various levels below required an upgrade for HTAWS to the standard GTN750. This may not be integrated into the trainer as the HTAWS test screen, selectable altitude levels and bypass switch are not available for selection. I had tried to set this up for "somewhat steep" STOL approaches with the DHC-6 but had no luck.

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/72799
https://sarasotaavionics.com/avionics/htaws-for-gtn-series

Similar to the support software package and audio panel required for Telligence (voice recognition) which in my opinion is awesome. The hardware addon page is Xed out.
Telligence Voice Command Guide

RXP will be along and confirm if the HTAWS VCO are not included in the Garman Trainer.

Both pics are from different add-ons in X-plane. I have many aircraft with callous and others without.

I am not sure why it is not available at times. It seems to be a feature of the standard RXP GTN though.

I may have misunderstood...sorry.

I had the impression that you wanted the selectable altitude levels, with VCO, at and below 500' which I have not had access to on any aircraft.

Would you be able to tell me which aircraft had the bottom picture. Voice call out icon is in the options and can be set "on" with the language field blank...but it will not show, for me, in the volume screen such as your second image. This may be routing voice callouts from X-plane 11 through the GTN audio...you have my curiosity.

Hopefully RXP can help.  

It is the RXP GTN callouts with the male or nice lady's voice! It isn't X-plane's... The option is available in the Cowansim 222B for example. I have added the 2D gauge to the Nimbus Huey and it is available. See pics.

Meanwhile it is not available with most REP packages and not with Just flight aircraft nor with Torqusim BN-2T.

In the aircraft above it is called HTAWS while in the others it is TAWS. Maybe this is what makes the difference and I am not sure if it is a setting in RXP or if we have to find this out in planemaker....

Edited February 18, 20215 yr by Blaser

Excellent...I think you are on to something.

Helicopter installations with the HTAWS inplemented...but by who, just the aircraft type, the aircraft developer input or through planemaker.

Reminds me of some aircraft types, if labelled military, will have options available specific to type such as TACAN.

Some of the freeware helicopters with GTN750, will need to be investigated, such as the freeware Rotorsims EC-135 V5 EMS and community freeware helicopter mods.

Thanks for the feedback.

Edit  

GTN db

C:\ProgramData\Garmin\Trainers\Databases

The database has three specific helicopter entries, two nav and a terrain. Appears that the trainer has the data, it may be the criteria to select HTAWS. 
 

Edited February 18, 20215 yr by Draggendrop
spelling and extra info

I hope @RXP can shed some light. 

This is most likely a HTAWS only feature, requiring both enabling TAWS of course and setting the airframe type to helicopter.

The former is set with the RXP GUI Settings Panel, the latter is auto-detected depending on the X-Plane aircraft type (and a few more heuristics) but you can also manually override in selecting an helicopter icon in the RXP GUI Settings Panel.

NB: the GTN in "rotorcraft" mode is using alternate DB files which are not covering the entire world AFAIK (didn't specifically check the latest 2004 AIRAC for this though).

6 minutes ago, RXP said:

The former is set with the RXP GUI Settings Panel, 

NB: the GTN in "rotorcraft" mode is using alternate DB files which are not covering the entire world AFAIK (didn't specifically check the latest 2004 AIRAC for this though).

In the settings there is only TAWS A & B. I tried A and it works with the helos. Is there any other setting we should change?

NB: I think it works worldwide...

I believe this shows only with HTAWS B

Update: I've been looking around into the Garmin code and it might be this also requires a radio altimeter. I'm not sure right now whether the plugin is feeding the trainer with this info (can't remember and need to look further into the code), but if this shows on some of your aircraft it is possible it uses other external sources, like Shadin Air Data computer or TCAS. You might want to try a few different combinations, otherwise, since you have one aircraft with and the other without, it might be simpler just comparing the ini files?

Edited February 18, 20215 yr by RXP

Here is the ini file of the arrow

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[GTN]
; comma separated list of gauges
gauges = GTN_750_1

[GTN_750_1]
; comma separated list of read only settings.
locked = CopilotSide, RadiosPair, AutoNavSource, FuelType
; comma separated list of render targets.
drawto = WINDOW, PANEL3D
; is the master device if true.
MasterDevice = true
Rheostat.Display = 3
Rheostat.Buttons = 2
LinkHsi = false
LinkObs = true
LinkVor = true
PowerSource = MAIN_BATTERY
UseRyanTcad = false
FuelType = AVGAS
; TAWS gear extension speed (knots) or -1 (auto detect Vle: 133)
TawsGearSpeed = 129
VoicePref = MALE
; aviation db: 0: nav_db2_grm, 1: nav_db2, 2: nav_heli_db2_grmn, 3: nav_heli_db2
NavDbType = 1
TawsMode = TAWS_A
; connects to: 'PFC_GTN' or any '#PID' (#D067 for PFC_GTN)
; no value connects to first found, 'OFF' disables connection.
HardwareDevice = 
; hardware selector number or -1 to disable.
HardwareIdx = -1

[GTN_750_1.WINDOW]
; display window if true.
visible = false
; show screen only gauge if true.
nobezel = false
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = WINDOW
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 1670,1566,830,790
; screen only border size (pixels).
border.size = 0
; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).
border.rgba = #000000
; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)
usemouse = true 
; display mouse tooltips if true.
tooltips = false
; freeze display position if true.
locked = false
; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires SHIFT+left mouse button).
popleft = false
; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).
popright = true 
; display as popout window if true (requires XP11.1).
undocked = false
; VR mode position and dimension (left,top,width,height) (requires XP11.20)
vrmode.rect = 0,475,325,475
; auto hide in external view if true.
autohide = false

[GTN_750_1.PANEL3D]
; display window if true.
visible = true
; show screen only gauge if true.
nobezel = true
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = PANEL3D
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 1231,2010,804,948
; screen only border size (pixels).
border.size = 0
; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).
border.rgba = #000000
; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)
usemouse = true
; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires SHIFT+left mouse button).
popleft = true
; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).
popright = true

 

 

 

Here is the ini file of the 222b Helo

Spoiler

 

[GTN]
; comma separated list of gauges
gauges = GTN_750_1, GTN_750_2

[GTN_750_1]
; comma separated list of read only settings.
locked = drawto, LinkHsi, LinkCrs, LinkObs, LinkVor, AutoNavGps, CopilotSide, FuelType
; comma separated list of render targets.
drawto = WINDOW, PANELS
; is the master device if true.
MasterDevice = true
LinkCRS = true
LinkObs = true
LinkVor = true
AutoNavGps = false
FuelType = JETA
TawsMode = TAWS_A
; TAWS gear extension speed (knots) or -1 (auto detect Vle: 150)
TawsGearSpeed = 0
; aviation db: 0: nav_db2_grm, 1: nav_db2, 2: nav_heli_db2_grmn, 3: nav_heli_db2
NavDbType = 1
; connects to: 'PFC_GTN' or any '#PID' (#D067 for PFC_GTN)
; no value connects to first found, 'OFF' disables connection.
HardwareDevice = 
; hardware selector number or -1 to disable.
HardwareIdx = -1
PowerSource = AVIONICS_BUS
AFMS.gps_selected = 0
Rheostat.Buttons = -100
UseRyanTcad = false
UseSimGpsCmds = true
VoicePref = MALE

[GTN_750_1.WINDOW]
; display window if true.
visible = false
; show screen only gauge if true.
nobezel = false
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = WINDOW
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 1805,989,830,790
; screen only border size (pixels).
border.size = 0
; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).
border.rgba = #000000
; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)
usemouse = true 
; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires SHIFT+left mouse button).
popleft = false
; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).
popright = true 
; VR mode position and dimension (left,top,width,height) (requires XP11.20)
vrmode.rect = 0,790,830,790
; display as popout window if true (requires XP11.1).
undocked = false
; display mouse tooltips if true.
tooltips = false
; freeze display position if true.
locked = false
; auto hide in external view if true.
autohide = false

[GTN_750_1.PANELS]
; display window if true.
visible = true
; show screen only gauge if true.
nobezel = true
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = PANEL3D
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 1218,2048,830,1024
; screen only border size (pixels).
border.size = 0
; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).
border.rgba = #000000
; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)
usemouse = true
; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires SHIFT+left mouse button).
popleft = false
; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).
popright = true

[GTN_750_2]
; comma separated list of render targets.
drawto = WINDOW, PANELS
; is the master device if true.
MasterDevice = false
; aviation db: 0: nav_db2_grm, 1: nav_db2, 2: nav_heli_db2_grmn, 3: nav_heli_db2
NavDbType = 1
; connects to: 'PFC_GTN' or any '#PID' (#D067 for PFC_GTN)
; no value connects to first found, 'OFF' disables connection.
HardwareDevice = 
; hardware selector number or -1 to disable.
HardwareIdx = -1

[GTN_750_2.WINDOW]
; display window if true.
visible = false
; show screen only gauge if true.
nobezel = false
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = WINDOW
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 1730,989,830,790
; screen only border size (pixels).
border.size = 0
; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).
border.rgba = #000000
; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)
usemouse = true
; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires SHIFT+left mouse button).
popleft = false
; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).
popright = true
; VR mode position and dimension (left,top,width,height) (requires XP11.20)
vrmode.rect = 0,790,830,790
; display as popout window if true (requires XP11.1).
undocked = false
; display mouse tooltips if true.
tooltips = false
; freeze display position if true.
locked = false
; auto hide in external view if true.
autohide = false

[GTN_750_2.PANELS]
; display window if true.
visible = false
; show screen only gauge if true.
nobezel = true
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = PANELS
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 0,0,0,0
; screen only border size (pixels).
border.size = 0
; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).
border.rgba = #000000
; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)
usemouse = true
; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires SHIFT+left mouse button).
popleft = false
; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).
popright = true

 

 

Edited February 19, 20215 yr by RXP

Thank you for sharing the content. When you compare the two files, can you spot any remarkable difference?

6 hours ago, RXP said:

Thank you for sharing the content. When you compare the two files, can you spot any remarkable difference?

Not sure I can see any significant difference. It must be within planemaker to let the GTN understand this is a Helicopter I think.

Is the map aircraft icon showing up like a helicopter in the helicopter?

Does it shows any "helicopter" specific information during boot or in the screens (HTAWS instead of TAWS)?

What about configuring it as TAWS B instead of TAWS A?

The main difference otherwise is the former has a retractable gear (speed set for TAWS A) and the latter is fixed (value = 0)