I'm wondering if there is a way to enable the F/O to read data from the aircraft on certain checklist items. For example, when the F/O is supposed to read Flaps -- 30, green light, is there a way to make MCE know that it's now supposed to read the current selected flap setting from the aircraft in order to reply to the challenge?

51 minutes ago, threegreen said:

I'm wondering if there is a way to enable the F/O to read data from the aircraft on certain checklist items. For example, when the F/O is supposed to read Flaps -- 30, green light, is there a way to make MCE know that it's now supposed to read the current selected flap setting from the aircraft in order to reply to the challenge?

He does that with many supported planes. Maybe an oversight for some of them. Which plane?

 

20 hours ago, FS++ said:

He does that with many supported planes. Maybe an oversight for some of them. Which plane?

I was copying a real world airline's checklist into MCE checklist format for use with PMDG's NGXu, which I'm sure is one of those fully supported and I know the F/O can read all sorts of stuff from the aircraft. I now have several lines in the checklist though that require the F/O to read and verbalize real time data from the aircraft, such as flap settings, N1 reduction, etc. A few examples of what's in the real checklist:

Final weights ..................... __ (TOG), __ (TOW CHG) [F]
Thrust ........................... __ (N1) Reduced/max, set [F]

In these cases, the F/O would have to respond with the current setting by reading from the aircraft (filling in the underlines). A more complex example is:

FMC ............_ (RWY),_ (SID),_ (TRANS), set [F], set [C]

I've finished the checklist and 'dumbed it down' because I'm assuming that just putting the text into the text file for checklists isn't going to tell MCE it's supposed to read the data rather than just reply with "set". My understanding is that the F/O will only read the text from the text file, hence my question if it's possible to tell MCE to read the data and respond that way. Not just "set" or "green light" for the flaps but "30, green light" where 30 isn't in the text file but read from the aircraft in real time.

On 7/25/2021 at 5:58 PM, threegreen said:

I was copying a real world airline's checklist into MCE checklist format for use with PMDG's NGXu, which I'm sure is one of those fully supported and I know the F/O can read all sorts of stuff from the aircraft. I now have several lines in the checklist though that require the F/O to read and verbalize real time data from the aircraft, such as flap settings, N1 reduction, etc. A few examples of what's in the real checklist:

Final weights ..................... __ (TOG), __ (TOW CHG) [F]
Thrust ........................... __ (N1) Reduced/max, set [F]

In these cases, the F/O would have to respond with the current setting by reading from the aircraft (filling in the underlines). A more complex example is:

FMC ............_ (RWY),_ (SID),_ (TRANS), set [F], set [C]

I've finished the checklist and 'dumbed it down' because I'm assuming that just putting the text into the text file for checklists isn't going to tell MCE it's supposed to read the data rather than just reply with "set". My understanding is that the F/O will only read the text from the text file, hence my question if it's possible to tell MCE to read the data and respond that way. Not just "set" or "green light" for the flaps but "30, green light" where 30 isn't in the text file but read from the aircraft in real time.

For the flaps, it is possible to reply with

XX green

xx green light

.... even though the expected reply is "set".

The others don't lend themselves well to speech reco.

You could reply with whatever you want, inluding specifying all those parameters by puttin a single undescore "_" in place of the reply.

But if we go into the busoiness of analyzing all the figures you utter in a row, it's unlikely the Fo would be happy straight away. Depending on what the speech engine picks up Fo is very likely going to argue many times and you'll want to throw him out of the window.