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Quick rudder pedals summary please :)

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Bought CH Products rudder pedals the other day and expecting arrival tomorrow but won't get to use it for a week due to the Big Basement Project my wife and I are doing. In any case, I'd like a quick confirmation of how I believe the rudder pedals are supposed to work:

1. The yawing is done by pushing the corresponding pedal to yaw in that direction (i.e., push right pedal to yaw right).

2. The toe braking is done by tilting the pedal forward to brake the corresponding wheel to turn, or tilt both pedals forward to brake in the forward direction.

Did I get it right? I know it seems like such a simple thing to ask, but I wanted to be sure I got it right.

Bonus question: For those who not only have rudder pedals, but also a twist joystick, did you bind a different function to the twist and, if so, what function? I suppose I could assign rudder trim, except I've never used it.

TIA!

Your concept of operations is correct.

I have a twist-grip joystick and rudder pedals, so I assign the joystick's twist/yaw axis to the steering tiller.

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

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12 minutes ago, w6kd said:

Your concept of operations is correct.

I have a twist-grip joystick and rudder pedals, so I assign the joystick's twist/yaw axis to the steering tiller.

Steering tiller? You mean for float planes?

1 minute ago, CLE_AA-5B_GrummanTiger said:

Steering tiller? You mean for float planes?

No---medium-to-large transport acft use a small control wheel called a "tiller" to hydraulically steer the nosewheel during taxi.  Many of the more sophisticated add-ons now simulate tiller steering, and you can also implement it for most others using a utility like FSUIPC.

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

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Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

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20 minutes ago, w6kd said:

No---medium-to-large transport acft use a small control wheel called a "tiller" to hydraulically steer the nosewheel during taxi.  Many of the more sophisticated add-ons now simulate tiller steering, and you can also implement it for most others using a utility like FSUIPC.

Ahhh, thanks for the lesson. I probably don't have to worry about that, I favor GA planes, the largest being bizjets and business turboprops.

You are right. The Rudder pedals are connected to the Rudder on the fin, so pushing the left pedal will swing the rudder left. This pushed the tail and will present the side of the fuselage to the airflow, causing a side force which is the part of the yaw you feel. On a motion sim, you'd be rolled away from the turn to simulate it. Your aim in flight is to keep the ball under the horizon in the centre, yaw is bad. The only exceptions are to line up on landing in crosswind, or if you want to sideslip to lose altitude. Which is fun in a light aircraft.

You can learn a bit more about secondary effects which will help too. On straight wings it's not too bad, but swept wing aircraft have a noticeable secondary roll with yaw. 

As to your twist axis. Probably useful to use it for the tiller but ideally if you are flying a light aircraft then a proper yoke would be next on your lest. 

Whatever you do, enjoy it! 

Mark Harris.

Aged 54. 

P3D,  & DCS mostly. DofReality P6 platform partially customised and waiting for parts. Brunner CLS-E Yoke and Pedals. Winwing HOTAS and Cougar MFDS.

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B737NG Pilot. Ex Q400, BAe146, ATP and Flying Instructor in the dim and distant past! SEP renewed and back at the coal face flying folk on the much deserved holidays!

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