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ATC refusing my runway request

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I do have force pilot runway selection enabled in settings, but ATC is refusing to give me the runway I've requested.  It just repeats the one it wants me to use rather than what I am requesting. 

Am I missing a step somewhere?

  • Commercial Member

There are multiple ways to set a runway when you have Force Pilot Runway Selection checked.

If you have a SID in your Filed flight plan that would do it.

Otherwise, on the SID panel, you can check the Force Rwy option and then press the Set Rwy button instead of loading a SID.

Dave

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In this case my files flight plan had the runway I wanted.  ATC just changed it at the last minute (I assume because the winds changed).  I was trying to override that change by requesting a different (the original actually) in text chat.  I used the phrase builder helper thing so the syntax was correct but every time ATC ignored my request and repeated it's new runway to me 

  • Commercial Member

When you say the flight plan had the runway you wanted, does that mean you used the Force Rwy option and pressed the Set Rwy button in the SID pane, or that you had a SID in the filed flight plan?  If not, the runway in the flight plan is not considered as selected by the pilot and P2A is free to assign whatever it wants at Clearance and Taxi time.

Also, the ATIS "arriving and departing" runways may be different from what you get if you are forcing the runway selection.

Dave

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I didn't have force selected when I filed.  Atc set my departure and arrival runways. When on approach, atc changed my runway assignment.  I tried to override that by requesting my original runway.  It wouldn't take it.  I then toggled the force option and tried again, still no dice.  
 

Is there not a way to override atc and choose the runway I want while in the air and on descent? 

  • Commercial Member

The only way would be to request vectors to an approach on the different runway.  You can only change the destination runway before you start down, or by scrubbing the arrival/approach and requesting vectors to a different approach.

And even requesting vectors might not yield great results in some situations, like mountainous terrain etc.

Dave

Edited by Dave-Pilot2ATC

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1 hour ago, Dave-Pilot2ATC said:

The only way would be to request vectors to an approach on the different runway.  You can only change the destination runway before you start down, or by scrubbing the arrival/approach and requesting vectors to a different approach.

And even requesting vectors might not yield great results in some situations, like mountainous terrain etc.

Dave

gotcha.  Thank you sir!

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