May 1, 20233 yr If I upload the .pln file through Navigraph though it works fine. LittleNavMap has the lastest data, but sends it to the north pole. I would use Navigraph charts in the mean time, but I cannot start in a parking spot using this plan, and when I change it to a parking spot in game, it changes the plan as well in game, bringing me to waypoints I don't want to go to, and I am unable to delete them. Edited May 1, 20233 yr by TheRealPoody Added
May 1, 20233 yr 1 hour ago, TheRealPoody said: If I upload the .pln file through Navigraph though it works fine. LittleNavMap has the lastest data, but sends it to the north pole. Can you post the working Navigraph PLN file? Maybe I can find something what MSFS does not like. See here how to post plans: https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/605519-how-to-post-a-screenshot-or-files/ Alex Alex' Projects: Little Navmap
May 1, 20233 yr <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <LittleNavmap xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="https://www.littlenavmap.org/schema/lnmpln.xsd"> <Flightplan> <Header> <FlightplanType>IFR</FlightplanType> <CruisingAlt>11000</CruisingAlt> <CreationDate>2023-05-01T04:42:46-07:00</CreationDate> <FileVersion>1.1</FileVersion> <ProgramName>Little Navmap</ProgramName> <ProgramVersion>2.8.10</ProgramVersion> <Documentation>https://www.littlenavmap.org/lnmpln.html</Documentation> </Header> <SimData>MSFS</SimData> <NavData Cycle="2304">NAVIGRAPH</NavData> <AircraftPerformance> <FilePath>Douglas DC-3 WORLD TRAVEL.lnmperf</FilePath> <Type>Douglas DC3</Type> <Name>Douglas DC-3 WORLD TRAVEL C-47</Name> </AircraftPerformance> <Departure> <Pos Lon="-80.301834" Lat="25.804688" Alt="9.00"/> <Start>PARKING 210</Start> <Type>Parking</Type> <Heading>88.5913</Heading> </Departure> <Procedures> <SID> <Name>GWAVA2</Name> <Runway>12</Runway> </SID> <Approach> <Name>MYAB09</Name> <Runway>09</Runway> <Type>CUSTOM</Type> <CustomDistance>5.00</CustomDistance> <CustomAltitude>500.00</CustomAltitude> <CustomOffsetAngle>0.00</CustomOffsetAngle> </Approach> </Procedures> <Waypoints> <Waypoint> <Name>Miami Intl</Name> <Ident>KMIA</Ident> <Type>AIRPORT</Type> <Pos Lon="-80.290115" Lat="25.795364" Alt="9.00"/> </Waypoint> <Waypoint> <Ident>PYLON</Ident> <Region>K7</Region> <Type>WAYPOINT</Type> <Pos Lon="-79.026619" Lat="24.794867" Alt="11000.00"/> </Waypoint> <Waypoint> <Ident>IRRIS</Ident> <Region>K7</Region> <Type>WAYPOINT</Type> <Pos Lon="-78.456314" Lat="24.416134" Alt="7998.37"/> </Waypoint> <Waypoint> <Name>Bain</Name> <Ident>MYAB</Ident> <Type>AIRPORT</Type> <Pos Lon="-77.684433" Lat="24.287674" Alt="12.00"/> </Waypoint> </Waypoints> </Flightplan> </LittleNavmap> I hope this helps. Would you like a screen shot of LNM as well?
May 1, 20233 yr 5 minutes ago, TheRealPoody said: I hope this helps. Would you like a screen shot of LNM as well? Thank you but, sorry, not the LNMPLN but the MSFS PLN created the the Navigraph charts. Alex' Projects: Little Navmap
May 1, 20233 yr <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <SimBase.Document Type="AceXML" version="1,0"> <Descr>AceXML Document</Descr> <FlightPlan.FlightPlan> <Title>KMIA to MYAB</Title> <FPType>IFR</FPType> <RouteType>LowAlt</RouteType> <CruisingAlt>11000.000</CruisingAlt> <DepartureID>KMIA</DepartureID> <DepartureLLA>N25° 48' 16.88",W80° 18' 6.60",+000009.00</DepartureLLA> <DestinationID>MYAB</DestinationID> <DestinationLLA>N24° 17' 15.63",W77° 41' 3.96",+000012.00</DestinationLLA> <Descr>KMIA, MYAB</Descr> <DeparturePosition>PARKING 210 PARKING NONE</DeparturePosition> <DepartureName>Miami Intl</DepartureName> <DestinationName>Bain</DestinationName> <AlternateName>AlternateName</AlternateName> <AppVersion> <AppVersionMajor>11</AppVersionMajor> <AppVersionBuild>282174</AppVersionBuild> </AppVersion> <ATCWaypoint id="Miami Intl"> <ATCWaypointType>Airport</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N25° 47' 43.30",W80° 17' 24.42",+000008.87</WorldPosition> <SpeedMaxFP>-1</SpeedMaxFP> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>KMIA</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="unknown"> <WorldPosition>N90° 0' 0.00",W180° 0' 0.00",+011000.00</WorldPosition> <SpeedMaxFP>-1</SpeedMaxFP> <DepartureFP>GWAVA2</DepartureFP> <RunwayNumberFP>12</RunwayNumberFP> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="unknown"> <WorldPosition>N90° 0' 0.00",W180° 0' 0.00",+011000.00</WorldPosition> <SpeedMaxFP>-1</SpeedMaxFP> <DepartureFP>GWAVA2</DepartureFP> <RunwayNumberFP>12</RunwayNumberFP> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="TIMECRUIS"> <ATCWaypointType>User</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N49° 30' 35.57",E156° 53' 57.32",+011000.00</WorldPosition> <SpeedMaxFP>-1</SpeedMaxFP> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="BALLR"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N25° 44' 14.81",W80° 11' 32.65",+011000.00</WorldPosition> <SpeedMaxFP>-1</SpeedMaxFP> <DepartureFP>GWAVA2</DepartureFP> <RunwayNumberFP>12</RunwayNumberFP> <ICAO> <ICAORegion>K7</ICAORegion> <ICAOIdent>BALLR</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="MYNNT"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N25° 40' 36.40",W80° 11' 24.47",+010000.00</WorldPosition> <SpeedMaxFP>-1</SpeedMaxFP> <DepartureFP>GWAVA2</DepartureFP> <RunwayNumberFP>12</RunwayNumberFP> <ICAO> <ICAORegion>K7</ICAORegion> <ICAOIdent>MYNNT</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="RUUMM"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N25° 37' 10.85",W80° 11' 52.34",+010000.00</WorldPosition> <SpeedMaxFP>-1</SpeedMaxFP> <DepartureFP>GWAVA2</DepartureFP> <RunwayNumberFP>12</RunwayNumberFP> <ICAO> <ICAORegion>K7</ICAORegion> <ICAOIdent>RUUMM</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="GWAVA"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N25° 15' 59.78",W79° 57' 55.47",+011000.00</WorldPosition> <SpeedMaxFP>-1</SpeedMaxFP> <DepartureFP>GWAVA2</DepartureFP> <RunwayNumberFP>12</RunwayNumberFP> <ICAO> <ICAORegion>K7</ICAORegion> <ICAOIdent>GWAVA</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="PYLON"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N24° 47' 41.52",W79° 1' 35.82",+011000.00</WorldPosition> <SpeedMaxFP>-1</SpeedMaxFP> <ICAO> <ICAORegion>K7</ICAORegion> <ICAOIdent>PYLON</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="IRRIS"> <ATCWaypointType>Intersection</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N24° 24' 58.08",W78° 27' 22.73",+011000.00</WorldPosition> <SpeedMaxFP>-1</SpeedMaxFP> <ICAO> <ICAORegion>K7</ICAORegion> <ICAOIdent>IRRIS</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="TIMEDSCNT"> <ATCWaypointType>User</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N50° 54' 17.68",W78° 27' 22.71",+011000.00</WorldPosition> <SpeedMaxFP>-1</SpeedMaxFP> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="unknown"> <WorldPosition>N90° 0' 0.00",W180° 0' 0.00",+011000.00</WorldPosition> <SpeedMaxFP>-1</SpeedMaxFP> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="unknown"> <WorldPosition>N90° 0' 0.00",W180° 0' 0.00",+011000.00</WorldPosition> <SpeedMaxFP>-1</SpeedMaxFP> </ATCWaypoint> <ATCWaypoint id="Bain"> <ATCWaypointType>Airport</ATCWaypointType> <WorldPosition>N24° 17' 15.64",W77° 41' 3.95",+000000.00</WorldPosition> <SpeedMaxFP>-1</SpeedMaxFP> <ICAO> <ICAOIdent>MYAB</ICAOIdent> </ICAO> </ATCWaypoint> </FlightPlan.FlightPlan> </SimBase.Document> I loaded the .pln file from LNM, then saved the flight plan in msfs. This is the save from MSFS.
May 2, 20233 yr @TheRealPoodyThank you. I'll have a look at it tomorrow. And yes, this is my experience too. MSFS cannot load some of its own flight plans.🙄 Wish they would make this more reliable. Alex Alex' Projects: Little Navmap
May 9, 20233 yr Took a bit longer ... 🙃 Just tried the export of the LNMPLN above and see the issue where a few waypoints are moved north. This happens even when removing all user waypoints. So these are not the issue. Then I moved the Navigraph navdata update out of the folder "Community" and the flight plan is loading without issues now. Maybe contact Navigraph about this? Although, I'm sure they are also fighting with MSFS bugs. The re-exported PLN from MSFS is broken beyond all recognition. One only has to look at the coordinates to see that they are way off. Alex Alex' Projects: Little Navmap
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