December 5, 20223 yr Hi, I have a question for all TV users. I originally came from a 27 inch 4k monitor (Predator IPS) and exchanged it for a half as expensive 34 inch from Dell (VA). The backlight bleeding was simply unbearable. My flights mostly take place online via VATSIM and mostly at night. So I'm almost always in a dark room and need a panel with good black levels. Yesterday I borrowed my son's 4k TV and I absolutely love it. The size is just awesome and gives the flies a whole new level of reality. Even 4k resolution on such a big screen is just really nice. The TV is only borrowed and I have to return it. It was also impressive that oddly enough everything ran smoothly, although the resolution is clearly higher than that shown on my Dell 34 inch monitor?!? I'll keep the 34 inch for daily work on the PC and would now like to get a 43 inch TV for the flight simulator. I'm using an Nvidia 2080ti with Gsync. I could already see some tearing on his 60hz TV. It wasn't bad, but the whole thing is noticeable. The 43-inch 4K devices can often be found used and at very reasonable prices (200 to 400 euros). TVs with Gsync and 120Hz tend to start at around 900 euros. Do you think the tear-free image justifies the double price? Has anyone happened to have experience with this and was able to compare a "normal" 4k at 60Hz to a 120Hz with Gsync? Happ landings Manuel i7-10700k - MSI RTX 2080ti - LG OLEDC2
December 5, 20223 yr Hi Manual -- I am using a 43" TV (see signature) that is 4k, 60 Hz, no Gsync and have had zero problems. Edited December 5, 20223 yr by pgde Gigabyte x670 Aorus Elite AX MB; AMD 7800X3D CPU; Deepcool LT520 AIO Cooler; 64 Gb G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO DDR5 6000; Win11 Pro; P3D V5.4; 1 Samsung 990 2Tb NVMe SSD: 1 Crucial 4Tb MX500 SATA SSD; 1 Samsung 860 1Tb SSD; Gigabyte Aorus Extreme 1080ti 11Gb VRAM; Toshiba 43" LED TV @ 4k; Honeycomb Bravo.
December 5, 20223 yr Author 1 hour ago, pgde said: Hi Manual -- I am using a 43" TV (see signature) that is 4k, 60 Hz, no Gsync and have had zero problems. many thanks for your response. First of all I have to admit that I am really impressed by the 43 inch TV. I had already read quite a few reports, but I didn't realize that it makes such a big difference for the flight simulation. With the 4k 60Hz, I immediately noticed that the instruments blur briefly when moving the head using TrackIR. May also be due to the fast movement. As soon as I keep my head still (e.g. to read something), everything is crystal clear again. Due to the extremely low prices for used TVs, I just wanted to ask about the difference. There are TVs that cost around 1000 to 1500 EUR up to 2 or 3 years ago. You can buy them for less than 300 EUR, some of which are used. If I had known that earlier, I would not have bought the DELL S3422DWG to replace the 27 inch 4k. I keep my eyes open for a good used 4k with 60Hz. I almost don't dare to go larger than 43 inches... i7-10700k - MSI RTX 2080ti - LG OLEDC2
December 5, 20223 yr 8 hours ago, Bumelbee said: many thanks for your response. First of all I have to admit that I am really impressed by the 43 inch TV. I had already read quite a few reports, but I didn't realize that it makes such a big difference for the flight simulation. With the 4k 60Hz, I immediately noticed that the instruments blur briefly when moving the head using TrackIR. May also be due to the fast movement. As soon as I keep my head still (e.g. to read something), everything is crystal clear again. Due to the extremely low prices for used TVs, I just wanted to ask about the difference. There are TVs that cost around 1000 to 1500 EUR up to 2 or 3 years ago. You can buy them for less than 300 EUR, some of which are used. If I had known that earlier, I would not have bought the DELL S3422DWG to replace the 27 inch 4k. I keep my eyes open for a good used 4k with 60Hz. I almost don't dare to go larger than 43 inches... There are lots of people still locking their fps to 30 and with a TV that has good motion control you can even smooth out the horrible panning when at 30fps. What I did with my old 43 inch bog standard TCL 4K TV was create a custom refresh rate of 50Hz then turn on Vsync on in Nvidia Control Panel and lock frames to 50 with Riva tuner, If you can maintain 50 fps this will give you very good results. I just changed to a 55 inch LG QNED85 4K@120Hz and VRR. The picture is crystal clear and HDR is stunning but I am having a few challenges getting VRR (Gsync) to cooperate with MSFS 2020. I am still working through this. BTW I thought a 55 inch TV might be too large but now I am used to it I wouldn't go back Edited December 5, 20223 yr by RJC68 Richard i7-12700K | Noctua NH-D15S Black Version | MSI Pro Z690 - A | 32 GB DDR4 3600 | Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 | 1TB WD Blue NMVe (MSFS 2020) | 500 GB WD Black Gen 4 NVMe | 4TB WD Black Conventional | Fractal Design Torrent Case | Seasonic 1000W Gold Plus PSU | Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke | Honeycomb Throttle | Airbus Side Stick | Virpil Rudder Pedals | Sony X90K 55 Inch TV |
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