August 28, 20232 yr Convergence, in this case in breeze, has made me fly / soar sometimes up to 100km across the Southern Mainland Portugal - Alentejo. Convergence due to sea breeze can get well into the interior regions of Alentejo. I've flown in Wave at Serra da Estrela, taking off from the great Covilhã airfield (closed due to stupid political and $$$ interests) as well as from Sintra Airbase where the wave could make you climb well away from the shore line at Roca cape 🙂 Condor 2 also models effects like that of the difference between the cloud bases between mountainous terrain and flats, due to LCL vs CCL difference. Blue thermal days are also modelled - when the Norman Point lays above the inversion layer. None of these is modelled by default in FSX/P3D, CumulusX! partially models some of these effects, MFS has a very inconsistent thermal model, X-Plane 12 is not that better either... SilentWings has a great weather engine too, rather advanced for it's time, with a base idea that is more like what ASOBO was trying to do in MFS 2020 with soaring weather - it makes it's calculations based also on the albedo from the satellite terrain images. Condor 3 will probably get to the light of the day one of these..... years? 🙂 Mind you that scenery wise Condor 2 is rather limited according to nowadays standards, but you have a worth of great scenery, for free,or paying a small fee for FTP slots from : Home - Condor Club Edited August 28, 20232 yr by jcomm Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
August 28, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, jcomm said: Convergence, in this case in breeze, has made me fly / soar sometimes up to 100km across the Southern Mainland Portugal - Alentejo. Convergence due to sea breeze can get well into the interior regions of Alentejo. I've flown in Wave at Serra da Estrela, taking off from the great Covilhã airfield (closed due to stupid political and $$$ interests) as well as from Sintra Airbase where the wave could make you climb well away from the shore line at Roca cape 🙂 Condor 2 also models effects like that of the difference between the cloud bases between mountainous terrain and flats, due to LCL vs CCL difference. Blue thermal days are also modelled - when the Norman Point lays above the inversion layer. None of these is modelled by default in FSX/P3D, CumulusX! partially models some of these effects, MFS has a very inconsistent thermal model, X-Plane 12 is not that better either... SilentWings has a great weather engine too, rather advanced for it's time, with a base idea that is more like what ASOBO was trying to do in MFS 2020 with soaring weather - it makes it's calculations based also on the albedo from the satellite terrain images. Condor 3 will probably get to the light of the day one of these..... years? 🙂 Mind you that scenery wise Condor 2 is rather limited according to nowadays standards, but you have a worth of great scenery, for free,or paying a small fee for FTP slots from : Home - Condor Club Sounds like a lot of fun, I really can't wait to try it. Sounds like Condor 2 takes sailplane gliding to a whole new level compared to all other flight sims. I noticed in the footage I have seen so far that the scenery is not super high quality or anything but as you said it looks like there's a lot of add-on scenery, some of better quality. The guys on their forum over there explained that to me as well. Even the scenery I've seen so far doesn't look too bad, I could live with it. They even gave me a link to a map showing all the locations of scenery available and it's quite a lot of areas around the world. https://www.condor.club/sceneriesmap/241/ The biggest thing that excites me is the physics and weather modeling.from everything you guys and the Condor forum guys told me about it.
August 28, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, Kalnon said: Sounds like a lot of fun, I really can't wait to try it. Sounds like Condor 2 takes sailplane gliding to a whole new level compared to all other flight sims. I noticed in the footage I have seen so far that the scenery is not super high quality or anything but as you said it looks like there's a lot of add-on scenery, some of better quality. The guys on their forum over there explained that to me as well. Even the scenery I've seen so far doesn't look too bad, I could live with it. They even gave me a link to a map showing all the locations of scenery available and it's quite a lot of areas around the world. https://www.condor.club/sceneriesmap/241/ The biggest thing that excites me is the physics and weather modeling.from everything you guys and the Condor forum guys told me about it. Flight dynamics wise it's also a different league. Gliders in SilentWings and Condorsoaring are reproduced a lot more plausibly / realistically than in FSX / P3D / MFS / XP. Ground physics ( takeoff and landing when in contact with the ground) aren't that great though 😕 For instance you can't train x-wind operations with realism, but once airborne it is very plausible, and teaches you, like no other platform, the need for proper coordination when flying a glider. If you're interested in learning more about Soaring Weather, there are a lot of resources over the Internet, but I would recommend downloading the WMO Technical Note No. 203 titled "Weather Forecasting for Soaring Flight". Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
August 28, 20232 yr 50 minutes ago, jcomm said: Flight dynamics wise it's also a different league. Gliders in SilentWings and Condorsoaring are reproduced a lot more plausibly / realistically than in FSX / P3D / MFS / XP. Ground physics ( takeoff and landing when in contact with the ground) aren't that great though 😕 For instance you can't train x-wind operations with realism, but once airborne it is very plausible, and teaches you, like no other platform, the need for proper coordination when flying a glider. If you're interested in learning more about Soaring Weather, there are a lot of resources over the Internet, but I would recommend downloading the WMO Technical Note No. 203 titled "Weather Forecasting for Soaring Flight". Thanks for the tips, I appreciate it. I will certainly check out those resources you mentioned. I also noticed the Condor website has guides on learning how to glide as well. Looks like I have a lot of reading to do 😆
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