Beta 7E "out of date flight plan"

[sandiego 0]

PHKO to PHNL

new issue for me:     this happened between waypoints and then stopped comms until I got closer to PHNL,  then I called the tower and asked for a landing which worked out OK

I see the issue here..... my recognized speech.... reading back the clearance..... I never said to close my flight plan

NewGPSWpt: AMERY
UnInterruptAudio in OnPilotEndSpeaking 09/26/2023 19:25:28
AudioInterrupts: 0 in UnInterruptAudio 19:25:28
 WaveOutPlayer Playing in UnInterruptAudio 19:25:28
Recognized Speech: Will cross TEX Six Thousand Feet then Descend via the BLUBL to Tree Ex-Ray Sam Five A ILS approach to Runway Zero Eight Left to cross Close our flight plan Two Thousand Seven Hundred Eight Twelve Ten for A SOS To Niner Niner Niner AMERICAN Ninety One 19:25:29
Stopped Listening
HandleIFRClearanceRequest 19:25:29
HandleCloseFlightPlanRequest 19:25:29
GetInformationResponse 19:25:29
HandleInitialContact 19:25:29
HandleInitialCenterContact 19:25:29
InterruptAudio in SayPhrase: AMERICAN Ninety One  your flight plan seems to be out of date. Please file a new one and call back for clearance. flight plan closed at Zero Two  Twenty Five  Zulu. A TIS Frequency is One Two Seven Point Four This is Honolulu Center go ahead.  09/26/2023 19:25:29
AudioInterrupts: 1 in InterruptAudio 19:25:29
 WaveOutPlayer Paused in InterruptAudio 19:25:29

 

Edited September 27 by sandiego

[Dave-Pilot2ATC 849]

It looks like you were reading back the descent instructions and something you said was interpreted as "...Close our flight plan".  

That triggered the closing of your flight plan.  The rest of the readback, which makes no sense, was interpreted as an initial contact attempt and because you had no flight plan, you got the plan out of date message.

To recover from this, you could have Filed your flight plan and then made initial contact with the contorller and it should have gotten you back on track.

Dave

Edited September 27 by Dave-Pilot2ATC

[sandiego 0]

Dave,  would I benefit from re-training my voice in P2A? I've been having trouble with the squawk interpretation for a while now.  I know that I originally used a Plantronics mike and now I'm using the Reverb G2 microphone.  That could make a difference.

[Dave-Pilot2ATC 849]

Yes, training might help.  Every time you train, Windows gets a little better at understanding you, and since your voice might be different coming through a different mic, it does make sense to do the training again.

Dave

[sandiego 0]

Dave, we're talking the training in your 4.0 User Guide, correct? 

[Dave-Pilot2ATC 849]

No.  The Windows Speech Training.

Go to Grammar Help.

In bottom right, click on "Train" button.

A Language Trainer window will pop up and you launch the Training for each of the controllers in the "Full Training" box on the left.

Dave

[sandiego 0]

Dave, that confused me, and, you know I've been a long time user.  We're talking the P2A app running and then Grammar Help, not some link I go to in Win11.  Your instructions in the 4.0 User Guide, should be the same thing.

Edited September 28 by sandiego

[Dave-Pilot2ATC 849]

Yes.  That's correct.

But when you get to Grammar Helper, you Press Train in the bottom right.

That opens the Language Trainer that then has scripts that run through Windows Language Trainer to train Windows on P2A's phrases, as spoken by you.  In the Full Training box, you select a controller type, then press the Train button in the Full Training box to start the Windows training.

Dave