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Hi,I downloaded the CS 757 demo from the library and installed it. I was curious on what frame rate I would get.My problem is that all glass panels are black, though the engines are running. Anybody know if the glass panels are disabled in the demo or if I've missed some setting? Without the glass panels working it's very hard to say what impact this ac has on frame rate.Ulf B

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Have you tried spinning the mousewheel somewhere on the glass maybe you can adjust the brightness or something. I've never touched or seen a CS product so it's just a guess. ;-)

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Ulf, I'm downloading it now. Will let you know what happens with the panel. What graphics card and what OS are you using? Craig

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Thanks Daveo, but I've tried every knob I can think of.Since the FMC and systems are disabled, I guess it's natural that the glass panels don't work. The demos is so crippled it won't fly. Makes you skip this ac and wait for the PMDG MD-11 instead ;-)Now time to uninstall the demo.Ulf B

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Craig,Here is my setup in brief:Core2Duo X6800 3.3GHz4GB RAM Corsair XMS2-8500C5BFG 8800GTX, Creative SB X-FiFSX Acc/SP2, Vista 32 SP1Ulf B

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Ulf, Same thing as you. I tried flying it anyway and it's like my joystick is disconnected. Guess we'll have to look at the CS website. At any rate I have the original CS 757 and while I get outstanding Framerates with all other aircraft their original was like a slide show on my system. Sorry no help.CraigLian Li PC 65B CaseCorsair HX Series CMPSU-620HX 620W Power SupplyPlextor PX-810SA/SW-BL DVD/CDGiagabyte GA-P35-DS3RCrucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)Arctic Freezer 7 ProIntel E6850 Core 2 Duo 3.0GHz 4M shared L2 Cache @ 3.6 GHzEVGA 7950GT KO 512mb 169.21_forceware whqlSeagate Barracuda 7200.10 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATASeagate Barracuda 7200.10 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATAWinXP Pro SP2

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> Same thing as you. I tried flying it anyway and it's like my>joystick> is disconnected.>The readme file says that all control surfaces are disabled in the demo, which makes the aircraft unflyable. This seems to be a demo of textures, that's all :-(Thanks for you effort to help me out.I'm a little concerned when you say that you already have the CS757. The readme file state:"Please do not install the Free Demo if you already have the 757 Captain 4.1 product installed. You will see nothing new but damage your original installation."Hope you didn't mess up your original installation.Ulf B

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I uninstalled the original quite some time ago as it was unflyable anyway. What a great demo. Can look but can't fly. Kinda of like buying a new car with no steering wheel so you can look at it but not drive it. What's the point of making a demo unflyable. All they had to do was time or date limit it. CS defies logic more oftenthan not. I do however have their C-130 and it's a great aircraft. Craig

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>> I uninstalled the original quite some time ago as it was > unflyable anyway.>By all means, this IS a good demo of the CS757. It's unflyable ;-)I uninstalled the demo, and as usual there was some manual cleaning needed: I had to remove the CaptainSim folder and a Registry entry manually.Ulf B

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JimJam, Do you own any CS products? CraigLian Li PC 65B CaseCorsair HX Series CMPSU-620HX 620W Power SupplyPlextor PX-810SA/SW-BL DVD/CDGiagabyte GA-P35-DS3RCrucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)Arctic Freezer 7 ProIntel E6850 Core 2 Duo 3.0GHz 4M shared L2 Cache @ 3.6 GHzEVGA 7950GT KO 512mb 169.21_forceware whqlSeagate Barracuda 7200.10 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATASeagate Barracuda 7200.10 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATAWinXP Pro SP2

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I am no CS fan, but a friend of mine has this and talked me into getting it. I havent flown it yet,just looked it over, but I can tell ya this, it has one OUTSTANDING VC. We are going flying this afternoon, I may do a leg or two in it and see how she flys. If anything stands out, Ill report back if you want.XP Pro SP2-FSX SP2AMD FX60-8800GTS-2 Gigs RAMFEX-GEX-UTUSA-FSGenesis-and a bunch of other stuffComputer optomized by www.fs-gs.com

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PPSFA,Make a note of what fps you get with the default FSX C172 (VC) and then what fps you get with the CS757 (VC). Would be interesting to see how big the decrease of fps might be.Ulf B

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>PPSFA,>>Make a note of what fps you get with the default FSX C172 (VC)>and then what fps you get with the CS757 (VC). Would be>interesting to see how big the decrease of fps might be.>>Ulf B>Good question so I just did a quick test, including a comparision with 2 other planes I fly a lot:Default 172: 2D/38 3D/28PIC 737: 2D/25 3D/15ES CJ1: 2D/25 3D/21CS 757: 2D/17 3D/14All tests done sitting on the runway at PBI, default fwd view. BTW I am really impressed with both the 2 and 3D cockpits on the 757 so I hope there are no showstoppers on this bird.XP Pro SP2-FSX SP2AMD FX60-8800GTS-2 Gigs RAMFEX-GEX-UTUSA-FSGenesis-and a bunch of other stuffComputer optomized by www.fs-gs.com

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YesI bought their C-130 only to find out Paypal had frozen their account due to a large number of customers wanting their money back.I received a email from CS that basically said, Sc** You! Go after PayPal and get us our money.They closed their forums and left everyone in the dark.So everyones download was held hostage until they got their money.Avsim stepped up and the forum you see below was opened for that reason.The only reason I continue to speak up is not for the seasoned simmer. You want to deal with this outfit knowing their shady past and present, go right ahead but do not complain and whine when you get shafted.I want the new flight simmers, some who have never purchased a addon to be aware of what they are getting into.Ive seen alot of good people get ripped off,mistreated and down right lied to. Not just here on Avsim, but go to any of the sim forums and you will see a long trail of CS customer complaints.You are welcomed to visit the Avsim CS forum and see for yourself.

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Did you ever get the C-130? I think it's an outstanding aircraft. I'm not sure if CS or PayPal may have been your problem. I used PayPal once quite a few years ago for a non FS purchase and that to was screwed up. I've never used them since.CraigLian Li PC 65B CaseCorsair HX Series CMPSU-620HX 620W Power SupplyPlextor PX-810SA/SW-BL DVD/CDGiagabyte GA-P35-DS3RCrucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)Arctic Freezer 7 ProIntel E6850 Core 2 Duo 3.0GHz 4M shared L2 Cache @ 3.6 GHzEVGA 7950GT KO 512mb 169.21_forceware whqlSeagate Barracuda 7200.10 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATASeagate Barracuda 7200.10 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATAWinXP Pro SP2

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Yes its a great plane but what they did was WRONG.After being dragged through the coals,a few patches, yes its not bad.However, when I turn my car's key and it starts, I do not do a dance and praise my automaker. It is supposed to start.Its when it does not and you contact the dealership that the real test begins.Do they apologize,tell you to bring it right in and actually try to fix it.Or do ignore your call and when you do, its a recording?This is not a value addon. We are talking about the most expensive addon EVER.I feel sorry for those who were strung along for years with the infamous 757 block scheme. Not sure how I feel about them if they threw in good money after bad again.And I am mistaken.I bought their Space Shuttle. I was led to beleive it was the first in the series of space addons which would add apon the shuttle.Maybe being able to launch,missions ect. Well that went nowhere.

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>Good question so I just did a quick test, including a comparision>with 2 other planes I fly a lot:>Default 172: 2D/38 3D/28>PIC 737: 2D/25 3D/15>ES CJ1: 2D/25 3D/21>CS 757: 2D/17 3D/14PPSFA,Thanks a alot! Good info on relative impacht on fps for these ac.Ulf B

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Hello All, Well, I too downloaded the demo, although I KNEW what to expect, what I recieved was -- yes, an unflyable aircraft . . .just about what you get when you buy the whole 'real deal'. However I did read somewhere that the flight model was NOT the same, nor would anything much work . . .bingo, correctamondo! Tongue in cheek aside, it's really a shame that CS has gone through so many darned changes through the years with so many different ideas which perhaps worked for them but not the customer. I just find it sort of funny that we now have two companies in the sim world which surve up the greatest eye candy which can be had . . .and they try to make so many trick items about the aircraft that they end up out tricking themselves . . . It's also not that they have poor or non existing support . . . The JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIX THEIR OWN PRODUCT. Nuff said . . . let the buyer beware . . .you get what you pay for . . . if you are a good shopper, careful, and very lucky.Best to allClayhttp://www.dreamfleet2000.com/gfx/images/F...ers/Dopke01.jpgClayton T. Dopke (Clay)Major, USAF (retired)"Drac"

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>Well, I too downloaded the demo, although I KNEW what to>expect, what I recieved was -- yes, an unflyable aircraft . .>.just about what you get when you buy the whole 'real>deal'. This is absolutely not the case. This is just a Demo, thats it. The aircraft itself is great. I just cannot understand how can you KNOW it is bad if you do not have it...

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Dear Stam, After buying CS products with unstable flight models, beta testing for them and seeing NONE of our suggestions on the beta forum listened to, (about real problems, not just a wish list), suffering through the 'block' system and being VERY dissappointed, and looking at the new aircraft which is a rehash of the FS9 product, I doubt very seriously if CS has changed the way they do business at all.And, not to make this a *?ssing contest, but being honest, CS has some of the best graphics in the business. Their eye candy is almost impossible to beat, as are some of their 'trick' features, which I find very cute and neat. Unfortunately, things like flight models, working panels, autopilots and FMC's don't match the beauty of the eye candy. True, I don't have the 757 for FSX -- nor will I, I've seen too many examples for MY taste of a half finished product, promised fix's and patches that never come to the light of day, and the like. Although this is just MY opinion, seek others and make your own decision. If you have the offering and it works for you, I'm really happy for you . . . unfortunately that is not usually the case for most of us.Best to you and yours, Clayhttp://www.dreamfleet2000.com/gfx/images/F...ers/Dopke01.jpgClayton T. Dopke (Clay)Major, USAF (retired)"Drac"

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Hi ClayGreat to see you're 'still around'.......Best,Toni.

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>won't fly. Makes you skip this ac and wait for the PMDG MD-11>instead ;-)Bird in the hand...

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