Jerry,Lose NVMAX d/l GeTweak Utility (much better) - reason NVMAX doesnt offer too much tweaking on anything over 23.xx drivers (in fact it's now obsolete!)Happy Flying:-rotor

Thanks Elrond/Terry. I didn't think it would matter too much speed wise. I'm just trying to figure it out. I'll just wait until the next hardware upgrade, which probably won't be too far down the road, the way hardware constantly changes. :) The GeForce cards keep coming down, and a 3 or 4 may be in the works soon. :)

Hey Elrond,You and I are on the same track. I have been monitoring the prices on the GeForce4 4200 almost daily.Just waiting for the right price (and the right opportunity to sneak it past the wife, heh heh). Allen

Allen, you and I are almost *always* on the same track... We're so much alike at times its just downright schhhhpooky. :-lolI've had the fortune to have an early Nvidia reference Ti4200 board here in the shop for the past couple weeks. It indeed is a barn burner compared to all the GF3 models - and as stated relatively inexpensive. I'm sure you'll be happy with one (no speculation about your wife however :-)).Take care,http://members.rogers.com/eelvish/elrondlogo.gifhttp://members.rogers.com/eelvish/flyurl.gif

>>>> There, Debate over.>>Is it ?Obviously it is...Chris Ehttp://website.lineone.net/~flightsimukAvoid AGP texturing = Better Performance ;)