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Good evening fellow MS FS2002 and MS FS 2000 simmers!!!!Well, if your day was good or bad this should put a BIG smile back on your face!! :7:-wavePMDG will be releasing their new B757 this week, assuming that there is no catostrophic anomolies. The B757 is the most complex product PMDG has put out, say Robert Rozziodio (sp) (a.k.a. PMDG CEO).The bird has been under devoplement for 9 months and has gone through several through beta cycles. :-eek Here is a few preview pics, showing interior and exterior shots of the bird in a CATIIIB approach. :-eek :-eek :-eek :-eek :-eek :-eekhttp://ftp.avsim.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboa...rum=DCForumID47This product will be "AS REAL AS IT GETS." :-beerchugFYI: PMDG will be developing a B767 IF there is a market for it, HINT HINT! @-@ @-@FYI2: PMDG is probably going to start developing aircraft and panels for MS FS 2002.Check out PrecisionManuals.com for detailsYours Truly,Captain Bob :-waveP.S. MR. L. Adamson this one is for U!! :-beerchug :-newburn

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Lets see, This is the 2nd post in this forum and the third total for the day for this crummy looking FlyII plane. Must we waste bandwidth telling the world about a sim that looks like a fisher-price kiddy play plane and scenery that looks like colorized corrogated cardboard?:-laugh1Besides this is a MSFS forum and there is a place for this post elsewhere.

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I agree that overall coloring, texturing reminds me of some doomsday scenario. What's even more interesting that this otherwise very fine 757 panel seems to be playing a cameleon borrowing its colors from the surrounding terrain .... :-shyMichael J.

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>Lets see, This is the 2nd post in this forum and the third >total for the day for this crummy looking FlyII plane. Must >we waste bandwidth telling the world about a sim that looks >like a fisher-price kiddy play plane and scenery that looks >like colorized corrogated cardboard? >Jeeze........... now I have to stick up for Capt. Bob :-lol Under the right circumstances, the plane can look "okay" (a FLYII limitation), as I never see exteriors looking as good as the PSS & DF series & the scenery can look very realistic. But getting the good scenery is sometimes an uphill battle of time. I did have the PMDG 777 for the original FLY & it was extremely functional panel/systems wise, along with good flight characteristics.L.Adamson

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Mr. HiFLlying,I'll start with you. :(Your assinuation that FLY!II is a "Fisher-Price Kiddy Play Toy", is an absolute insult to the ENTIRE flight simulation community. These shots are taken from a beta tester, using jpg format. Just FYI, a format with low resolution and clarity to provide fast page loads. I suppose this "Fisher-Price Kiddy Play Toy", is a little to complicated for your REMEDIALE reading skills. Your post is a perfect example of the type of clientel MS caters too. I suppose that with some REMIEDAL reading workshops at your local community college GED class, you will some day be able to read the manual and possible fly the PMDG B757. But that is doubtful. All PMDG aircraft come with a minimum of a 200 page detailed POH which includes systems explainations, operationg procedures, etc. Nice "NASTY" post.. Completely unwaranted.Sincerly,CB

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When does the MSFS 2002 version come out? Or did I mistakenly log onto the Fly fourm?MikeOcala, Florida

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Mike,I heard rumors, that it will be out this summer. Most likely after the JetStream31Hope that helps... :)

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An example of the PSS Airbus exterior, which I find to look quite "life like".L.Adamson

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Capt Bob,>>Your post is a perfect example of the type of clientel MS caters too.I don't think it is very wise to come into a MS Fs2002 forum and insult the users. I can see you trying to defend your position, but that just wasn't very smart.As far a remedial education, I think that before you criticise others you need to get your own spelling in order.Cheers,Pete S

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L,I'm not a huge PSS fan, but THAT is as real as it gets, maybe we should start posting over at the FLY? forum so that Captain Bob's compatriots can see what THEY are missing.MikeOcala, Florida

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>Nice "NASTY" post.. Completely unwaranted. >>Sincerly, >>CB Right or wrong, it's sort of a chance you take when you post Fly? topics in the MSFS forum.MikeOcala, Florida

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...and spell checkers are cheap! MS makes a nifty one! :)Cheers,

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Captains-Although I'm always flattered to see postings from the fans of our products- it makes me exceedingly uncomfortable to see postings along this vein.Those of you who have known me during my 10 years around the online simming community know that I'm a big fan of moderation.At PMDG we develop add-ons that we feel are valuable to the learning and education of the simming community. To be frank- we are really not interested in whether a product is better if developed for the FLY or MSFS franchise. From where we sit- both products are exceedingly good at entirely different aspects of the hobby.There does not appear to be any way to quell the mud-slinging and fear-mongering that takes place between the two franchises- but from the standpoint of a developer who works on both platforms: The entire argument strikes me as exceedingly silly.Please, folks- let's focus on the task at hand. Enjoy a sim for it's capabilities and it's add-ons. The folks at PSS, Dream-Fleet, Wilco's PIC, PMDG and-the-like put lot's of heart and soul into products for everyone to enjoy. So go and enjoy them....don't waste the time fighting about them....Robert S. RandazzoPrecision Manuals Development Group http://www.precisionmanuals.com/images/coolcap.gifwww.precisionmanuals.com

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Mr. L. AndersonOkkkk.. that does look very good!! But, why doesn't my PSS airbus look that good. lolHere is a screen shot of the B757 in lifelike quality( this is still in the early beta version I might point out):http://www.precisionmanuals.com/products/F...B757/757CO1.jpgHere is a nice pic. of the PMDG crew at work.. Robert is in the captains seat, and leftris is the FO.http://ftp.avsim.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboa...bce47285cab.jpgCheck out these shots.. Excellent:http://ftp.avsim.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboa...edb4dada835.jpghttp://ftp.avsim.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboa...eb84d7891cc.jpgYours Truly, :-walksmileCB

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Agree here. Didn't really want to see this happen either! L.Adamson

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>These shots are taken from a beta tester, using jpg format. Just FYI, a format with low resolution and clarity to provide fast page loads.> Well excuse the H$#@ out of me, I guess if it doesnt look good in its worst form how can I expect it to look good in its best form, I have yet to see any fly image to be realistic nor the scenery. If it is within a week of release then they should be showing their best...dont you think????????? which includes systems explainations, operationg procedures, etc. Hmmm let me look over my right shoulder to my book case where I keep my POH for my add-ons PIC has 224pages, Dreemfleet737 has 272 and PSS Airbus has 289pages all detailed with ops procedures and system explanations, so whats your point????This POST is presented in the wrong forum to begin with, did you lose your way to the FLY forum or do you have a reading deffeciency.Post about Fly products are completly unwaranted here.

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ME either, I appologize for my one post regarding the REMEDIAL READING CLASSES.. it was a slightly low blow.Your's Truly,@-@CB

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>>Okkkk.. that does look very good!! But, why doesn't my PSS >airbus look that good. lol >If you'd upgrade from the PII233, FS2002 would probably run better too! :) That PSS screenshot is one of my own collection that I took with my Athlon 1900XP/Geforce3Ti500.L.Adamson

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Just a small suggestion....Keep the FLY! and FLYII! comments over at the FLY! forum, and keep the MSFS comments here...they are 2 different sims totally, and neither really has anything to do with the other, with the exception of they are both flight sims. That would be the easiest way to prevent such comments as seen above. Most of the time, the easiest way to prevent problems is to avoid them all together.Brian A. NeumanWooodbury, MN

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Excuse Me! I thought AVSIM was a FLIGHT SIM community. Where everybody involved is part of a family. Do we need to get an attorney in worder to make a PC (Politically Correct) post here.

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Capt Bob,As far as I am concerned - you can post on whatever forum you want. But at least do your homework and when you try to distinguish PMDG's aircraft from some MSFS aircraft (or, for that matter in the opposite direction) make sure you get your facts right. The number of pages in the manual is *not* the differentiating factor here. I have no problem with someone 'advertising' their favorite plane provided it is done in an intelligent manner so other can learn from the information included. Michael J.

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