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Hello, everyone!After being out of commission for awhile, I'm finally getting backinto the swing of things as it relates to FLY! II.The problem I'm having is that I can't get rid of what is apparentlyground fog when I start up (after installing the 2.50.240 patch).It just obscures the ground even though whenIi check the weather"panel", it shows all theeee cloud bases as clear. I have no ideawhat I'm doing wrong!I'm on a Mac, however, so I don't know if it's incidental to myplatform of choice, or if it's been common to my pc acquaintancesas well. System specs below...PowerMac G4-933/60 GB/768 RAM/SuperDrive/OS 10.2.4, 9.2.2./GeForce 4 Ti/USB Ch Fighterstick, Pro Throttle, Pro PedalsThank you for any help...Jim

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Hi Jim,I'm running Mac and have no problems whatsoeverThe only thing I can suggest is check that your visability is above 5 miles.Regards John

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John,I guess I'll have to shelve FLY! II.As much as I wanted to use it, I simply can't flywith fog.There is no scenery area anywhere that I can findto get rid of the fog. I took a screenshot and saved it as a little 28k file,but I forgot that the screenshot area is down right now.Also, can you post your sys specs and what OS you're running?Maybe that'll give me a clue.Thanks for replying,Jim

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Jim,You can attach the file to your message right here. Down at the bottom click on the hyperlink that says "Click here to choose your file" select the file, follow the instructions and that's it. The only problem is that it will be visible for a limited amount of time (a week or two).Take care,Alejandro AmigorenaCheshire, CTFly! II Beta Team MemberAthlon XP 1800ABIT KR7A-RAID768Mb RAMMSI GeForce 3 Ti 500 64MBSB Audigy GamerCH Flight Yoke USBCH Pro Pedals USB

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Jim,What is your max visibility set to?Have you tried to download and change to a different sky set? (skies.ini - I hope these are compatible with the Mac)Also, on rare occassions when a "haze" appears at startup, it's gone as soon as I cycle to & from an exterior view or cycle forward or back with the Time hotkeys.

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Alejandro,Thanks for the tip.I totally forgot all about that little area at the bottom,but I thought that I read that there was a three weekdelay due to new server issues (unless that wassometime in the past).I'll see what happens...Hey, whaddya know, it works...Anyhow, this extends from the surface up to aboout2000' AGL, and subsequently obscures all the ground.Aircraft fly okay, but no scenery.Jim

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Jim, That is very strange. Could you please post another picture showing the Overview menu (where clouds, winds, visibility, etc. are shown)?Also, is there are fly.ini in the Mac, if so, could you post it? It should be in your /system folder.We'll get you up an running... VFR ;-)Alejandro AmigorenaCheshire, CTFly! II Beta Team MemberAthlon XP 1800ABIT KR7A-RAID768Mb RAMMSI GeForce 3 Ti 500 64MBSB Audigy GamerCH Flight Yoke USBCH Pro Pedals USB

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I'm using the PC version of Fly, but here is something to be aware of. There are two things that determine your visibility. One is in the weather section under the "other" dialog - there's a visibility setting which (on my system) if I crank it down to a sufficiently small number, yields results very much like the screenshot you posted. Make sure you have that slider set to the largest possible value. This isn't in with the cloud settings, but it's accessible from the "other" menu.The other place is in the scenery dialog - there's a setting for maximum view distance. I have mine set to 60 miles, and I seem to indeed be able to see the entire 60 mile distance with no troubles.John/madmax

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Jim, does the distance from thje a/c to the fog seem constant or does it jump in amd out?Like others who posted, I suspect that if you go Weather>Other and then set the vis slider to "clear" you'll be OK. Sometimes the setting won't "stick" unless you set it even lower, close the dialog box with "OK", reopen it and set to clear.Alejandro, the structure of Fly on the Mac is nearly identical to the PC. We have the same folders (directories) and nearly identical render.ini and fly.ini files. I've robbed a lot of info and settings from the PC side of the forum!

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Okay, guys see attached.I've done everything I can think of.Thanks in advance for any help...

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Jim,Try sliding the vis slider to the LEFT (less vis) and hit OK to close the box. Then re-open Weather>Other and set Vis back to "Clear." This was an issue during testing but I haven't seen it in a release, but it's something to check.If you can e-mail me a copy of your fly.ini file, I can check it against mine. The 2.5/240 patch added some additional vis controls in there so I suspect that's where this is coming from. If you can get it to me today (Sunday) I should ba able to respond quickly. Otherwise, I won't be able to get to it until next Sunday. I'm having the "month-from-Heck" at work that has required extra time in the office.

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Alan:What are your sliders saying when the start up screen loads, IE32 bit textures=?pick the highest textures you can high detail textures =x I had the same looking pic as you have, But on the loading screen where you start fly berfore it loads, You can pick those textures out And things seem to clear out.Let me know how it goes Jeff Akins

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Allan,The fly.ini text file is included under the last image posted.There is a .txt file there (with a 3-page icon on the left)Thanks again...Jim

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Jeff, Allan isn't the one with the issue, I am.But I have maxed out my video sliders.I have done what you have suggested,but still no change!Thanks for the tip and replying, though.Regards,Jim

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Alejandro,Listed farther down in this thread are a couple of imagesI posted with the the dialog boxes related to weather settings.Underneath the second image is a link to my fly.ini text file.You are more than welcome to take a look at it and let me knowwhat you think.Best regards,Jim

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Alejandro,Listed farther down in this thread are a couple of imagesI posted with the the dialog boxes related to weather settings.Underneath the second image is a link to my fly.ini text file.You are more than welcome to take a look at it and let me knowwhat you think.Best regards,Jim

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Jim,I did and I wish I could tell you I spotted something wrong, but I didn't. Everything looks OK.Did you by any chance download a METAR either through multiplayer or using David Sandberg's InfoMetar?You ARE patched all the way up to 2.50.240, right?What happenes when you set your visibility to the minimum, confirm and then set it back to the maximum? Does it change? Have you tried intermediate settings to see if the visibilty changes?It's really puzzling because at one point during the testing we identified a problem with the visibility setting bur Rich was able to fix it.OH, one more thing to try. Temporarily rename the fly.ini file in your system folder to fly.ina and start Fly!, it will automatically create a new one. Does the problem go away?Just be patient, as I said, we'll get you flying VFR...Alejandro AmigorenaCheshire, CTFly! II Beta Team MemberAthlon XP 1800ABIT KR7A-RAID768Mb RAMMSI GeForce 3 Ti 500 64MBSB Audigy GamerCH Flight Yoke USBCH Pro Pedals USB

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Alejandro,As suggested in your reply, I tried everything that you suggested. I didn't download any metar, although I DID try one of the examples, just to see what would happen (the issue was already there, though).I AM patched up to 2.50.240 according to the splash screen, so I suppose I'm alright there, as well.I have tried to change the intermediate settings, and I could swear that there was a minor change on one of the settings, but I don't remember which one. I'll try to find out and post a screen shot for you.I changed the fly.ini to fly.ina as requested, and re-started FLY! II. Nothing has changed. I still get the "fog".Thanks again, Alejandro,JimPowerMac G4-933/60 GB/768 MB/SuperDrive/Mac OS 10.2.4; 9.2.2/USB Ch Fighterstick, Pro Throttle, Pro Pedals

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Jim,I got your fly.ini file just fine. At first glance i don't see any huge differences between yours and my patched version that can't be explained by the difference in vidcards, but about the time I was going to do the old "line-by-line," my son needed my computer to finish his homework--it comes first around here! Will try to look it over at lunch tomorrow.

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Allan,Your son's homework should come first,by all means.I appreciate any help you can give! I also shouldmention that I'm running this in 9.2.2.Also, I just thought of something...Do you think itwould make a difference if I overwrote andreplaced the files instead of extracting to myFLY! II folder?JimPowerMac G4-933/60 GB/768 MB/SuperDrive/Mac OS 10.2.4; 9.2.2/USB Ch Fighterstick,Pro Throttle, Pro Pedals

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Hi Jim,I had the exact problem that you're having after installing the new patch - the problem was discussed on topic #156 of the Mac forum. I had posted screenshots which have since been deleted but they looked exactly like yours. Changing sliders etc. did nothing. The problem turned out to be the render.ini file. The one that comes with the patch does not work for the MAC users. You'll have to re-input the one you were using before you applied the patch.Check out the thread and hopefully it helps - it's on page 3 of the Mac Forum dated Dec. 30Hope this helps,Peter

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Peter, Thanks so much for the reply. I was so stuck on thefly.ini file being messed up that I didn't think to checkthe render.ini.I'll check it right now and get back to you....JimPowerMac G4-933/60 GB/768 MB/SuperDrive/Mac OS 10.2.4; 9.2.2/USB Ch Fighterstick, Pro Throttle, Pro Pedals

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Jim,Dear Son managed to royally jam the printer while doing homework, so I couldn't print out my "line-by-line" comparison until a few minutes ago. I am glad I d/led the Apple LaserWriter Service Manual a couple of weeks ago! Had to take the printer somewhat asunder to get at the offending piece of paper.Sounds like Peter may have the answer. For giggles, you could move the render.ini file out of the FlyII folder and see if Fly writes a new one. I think it will.

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Allan,I've got another question for you.How do I get rid of the "flashing textures" that I seefrom the Tower view?(I didn't want to start a new thread for a question thatI hope is easily answered...)Thanks again.JimPowerMac G4-933/60 GB/768 MB/SuperDrive/Mac OS 10.2.4; 9.2.2/USB Ch Fighterstick, Pro Throttle, Pro Pedals

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